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With these kind of things there are two elements.Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
The nature of the problem and how it is managed.
With the best will in the world when the urgency to release something that works is paramount, Sitel will have quality challenges and demands to reduce their system and user testing cycles to meet deadlines. In these circumstances any software developer, public or private, will produce code with bugs that don't get discovered until the system is deployed into live.
But what happens when the problem is discovered is a different story. The speed with which Sitel informed their clients, then Test and Trace management (whoever they are) told politicians and then how it was politically managed may be the issue that needs exploring
Bloody immigrants....coming over here with their Covid vaccines!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...n-end-pandemic
Hope you all OK BM
Alan Browne who represented Ireland against England the other night had been tested positive after the game but has tested negative ahead of there game against Wales the FA of Ireland have announced
Sounds a bit iffy
All this talk of corona Christmas on the news, I’m absolutely buzzing at the fact we won’t be seeing the in laws for the first time in 10 years, no travelling, just me the wife and kids....if there was ever a silver lining this is surely it. Anyone else in the same heartbreaking predicament?
Not the same year.All this talk of corona Christmas on the news, I’m absolutely buzzing at the fact we won’t be seeing the in laws for the first time in 10 years, no travelling, just me the wife and kids....if there was ever a silver lining this is surely it. Anyone else in the same heartbreaking predicament?
We have seen my father in law who is in a mental health care home twice since March.
It's a f*cking disaster.He's 82 this year.Time is not our side.
News of a "nearly 95 per cent" effective vaccine now;-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54902908
that seems like more promising news, especially that it can be stored in a fridge for upto a month, far more realistic to be able to roll this out than the Pfizer one.
I wonder if Pfizer realized that their offering would never be taken up without significant infrastructure in place to be able to deliver it at temperature, so they released their trial results first to try to get public pressure to make governments put that kind of infrastructure in place.
You may be right, any Government which is perceived to be hesitating on a "working vaccine" on financial grounds could expect to see a pretty big dip in their ratings.
It's the fact that two vaccines of a similar type have produced virtually identical results up to now which is most encouraging in my book because you'd think any other company using the same approach would also get effectiveness percentages around the 90% mark.
Of course Pfizer realised there was an issue with storage which is why in parallel they devised a Pfizer cold box container to transport it at the correct temperature. The fact that it can be refrigerated for up to 5 days before use makes it manageable for mass vaccination. The specialist pharmaceutical logistic companies can handle both. I don't see that being able to store in a fridge for a month is much better than 5 days in practice.. The fridges used, say in a surgery, are not like your domestic one, they are specialist scientific ones with calibrated temperature control, usually quite small.
Clearly this second vaccine would be more convenient in practice than the Pfizer one.
Weren't you the same guy a week or so ago who was severely criticizing Mark Drakeford for not immediately investing in loads of infrastructure to deliver the vaccines at -70C , then there were people involved in the cold delivery logistics type company saying that that would be a huge challenge as the capacity would be massively exceeded.
Something that would last for 6 months in a normal freezer and 1 month in a normal fridge would clearly be much easier to manage a large scale roll out.
VHS vs Betamax.... but who'll be which
yes I was critical of Mark Drakeford. At the time none of us knew that Pfizer had addressed the transportation issue, nor that it was stable for 5 days in a fridge ( not a 'normal fridge' but a specific clinical standard fridge, as the others would be as well). In practice the Pfizer one should not be an issue for us in UK.
I think other vaccines that appear more stable might be better deployed to warmer countries or those parts of the world where 'cold chain' transport might be more difficult
Any how the Moderna vaccine is unlikely to be available in UK anytime soon as we in UK haven't ordered so the Pfizer one may have to do
Exactly, five days is plenty....
Isn't it more to do with the pfizer one needing to be stored at a much lower temperature than this one and the AZ one?
5 days probably means you have to do weekly deliveries everywhere that the vaccine needs to get to, as most won't have the capability to store at -70
A month at "fridge" temperatures means you can store more at each location and only deliver every few weeks, it makes the logistics much easier doesn't it?
Great news.
This Moderna vaccine wouldnt be available to the UK until the Spring at the earliest.
A combination of encouraging news and not so encouraging news in Vaughan Gething's press briefing today as covered by the BBC's rolling news;-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-wales-54958901
The AZ/Oxford vaccine would be the best news for us, if that has a similar efficiency we will be sorted quite quickly. Results before the end of the month on that one I hope.
5 million Moderna vaccines ordered by the UK Government.
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/13...092659712?s=19
Interestingly, the Oxford vaccine has done almost 6 months of testing apparently, compared to the recent ones announced that have only managed three. Expect some bigger news from this one which has been producing it behind the scenes for longer. Surely this one, right in our door step is the one we will get first?
I don't think proximity of the company developing it would make much difference would it?
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