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It is unfortunate that the half dose followed by a full dose regimen turned out to be the result of a mistake, even if it was serendipity that it seems to be more efficient than two full doses! For me that immediately casts doubt over the whole trial which is a shame. If they will now have to repeat a full scale Phase 3 study with more elderly volunteers included then that is going to cause quite a delay.
Obviously the Yanks will make a meal of this as they are the greatest/best at everything.
Was the half dose a mistake? I thought it was part of the trial?Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
DRAKEFORD OUT!!!!
What’s he done now? Have I got to buy a meal now when I go to the pub?
Typical....just arrange a pub visit with some mates, first time I’ve booked or been out with them since February and now he’s thinking of closing pubs to.....”save Christmas”....What’s he done now? Have I got to buy a meal now when I go to the pub?
R rate down to between 0-9 and 1 in the UK, but the rate in Wales is reported as being up to 1.4.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55105285
Local restrictions should be used where its high like b gwent
There's only one thing for it: Drakeford and Co are going to have to outlaw the sale of tea lights and toasters until the New Year.
Apparently a pasty and chips qualifies as a substantial meal, so that shouldn't break the bank.What’s he done now? Have I got to buy a meal now when I go to the pub?
Eat slowly because apparently you have to leave once you have finished your meal. No hanging around for a second pint.
Book another pasty and take a doggy bag. Pasty's all week for tea.
I see one brewery have turned out a beer called "Substantial Meal"
An admission the Firebreak lockdown wasn't long enough?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55102867
People to start receiving the vaccine in England in ten days time according to this.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ne-rollout-nhs
Interesting that the Guardian says NHS staff will be given the vaccine first. Then over 80s and social care staff.
There are 1.4 m people working for NHS, 1.6 m working for social care and 3.2m age 80 and over. With 2 jabs needed that's our first batch of 10m accounted for.
1.4 million work for the NHS? Crikey.....wouldn’t they just do the oldies first?
I doubt whether all NHS staff will be first in the queue. There are many admin staff, for example, who don't work anywhere near the hospitals and many others who work nowhere near the COVID wards which are usually in separate areas and even different buildings to the main hospital. Isolating COVID patients from the rest of the hospital (in red zones) is usually well done so it would make no sense for all NHS staff to receive priority over the over 80s. Of course those on the front line should receive absolute priority but, as for the rest, I'm doubtful whether they will qualify to receive the jab in the first wave.
Justmy opinion of course. Worth nothing.
Daily Telegraph and Guardian are saying that NHS staff will come first. Seems odd as in the past the Government has always followed the science, which says elderly and vulnerable should be first.
NHS now has all the PPE it needs, has Nightingale hospitals, generally has young and healthy staff. Yet NHS staff will be offered the vaccine first.
This means they will be able to handle all the elderly that are admitted to hospital because they haven't been vaccinated.
GP practice managers in Cardiff getting ready for it too
Also the disease gets worse with the higher viral load, no one is getting a higher viral load than NHS staff.
Being young and healthy isn’t the important if you’re getting a shit ton of the virus.
I think it’s a logistical thing too the first vaccine is the Pfizer one that can only be moved safely a couple of times and has to be stored at a lower temperature so it makes sense to give it to people already in the hospitals.
I imagine the Oxford one will be one or two weeks behind and that’ll be given to care homes and over 80s.
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looks like cases are starting to creep back up. the lockdown did stop the very fast rise initially, but it's stubbornly refused to drop any further, and looks like it is creeping back up already.
will they be able to wait until after Xmas for lockdown 3.0?
Back up to around the level it was pre firebreak today (1,400plus), but there were the highest number of tests yesterday that I've seen since I started checking the Welsh figures everyday, so that explains it to some extent - the firebreak seems to have done more harm than good in Blaenau Gwent (over 400 today), while the Rhondda and Merthyr board figures are heading upwards again.
https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary
They could easily give front line staff on the covid wards the jab aswell as oldies, surely that would be a good outcome? Less people severely ill needing long term care in hospital and less staff off....
They’ll be getting it once the other is approved, this is why they’re getting it first:
I think sometimes we have to accept that logistic and medical experts know more than us.Only NHS staff will be inoculated at first, with care home residents and vulnerable over-80s having to wait.
It comes as experts believe the Pfizer vaccine should be moved no more than four times because it risks becoming ineffective - making it difficult to transport to care homes.
By the time it reaches UK hospitals, it will have been moved twice - from the Pfizer production plant in Belgium to storage hubs in Britain and from there, to hospitals.
And I think a few NHS workers have died of covid recently, PPE doesn’t make you immune to it.
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