Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Monster munch]

Popped out earlier this evening to pick up some food and drove passed one of the local pubs, there were about 7or8 dickheads crammed into the doorway having a smoke literally shoulder to shoulder. No wonder it’s rising again, these people (quite a lot actually) just cannot social distance or give two fcuks about anything but themselves.

[Hilts]

Of course front line workers should get it first.

[adz-a32]

I used to work at Pfizer and was involved with supply chain. My take is that the vaccine will be made at various Pfizer plants around he world. Europe will be served by the plant at Puurs, Belgium. It will be transported in specialist boxes with dry ice at -70 in quantities of up to 1000 vials. In these containers it is stable for 10 days, so has to be used within this time frame

No doubt much of it will be transported by plane so it could be in UK within 24-48 hours of manufacture. The low temperature storage requirement means that it will be administered from hubs rather than from doctors' surgeries.

Hospitals can usually store drugs at -2 to -8 and at that temperature the vaccine is stable for up to 5 days. Obviously if you keep opening a fridge to take some product out that could effect the temperature and consequently the stability.
The 5 days stability in fridge is part of the 10 day time limit, not additional to it.

So in UK we need a well orchestrated campaign to get the product from Puurs to UK hubs from where mass vaccinations can take place. The government has appointed a Tsar for England to oversee the logistics of this. It may be difficult but its certainly manageable. Same will probably apply to USA. The stability/ transport issues means the vaccine is unlikely to be suitable for some poorer countries.

A downside in UK is the devolved 4 nation approach to healthcare. Each home country will be responsible for distribution and administration once they receive supply from UK Government. Based on past experience each country will want to do things slightly differently. This just adds to the links in the supply chain and takes up valuable time. If ever there was a time for a centralised UK approach this is it.

Interesting. Thanks for sharing your knowledge bro

[Vindec]

Good Christmas present for someone. It could be popular on here:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bog-Standar.../dp/B07ZRWBPS5

[xsnaggle]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55136635

I hope they take his balls off him too.

[goats]

Hopefully

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...eford-19378411

[the other bob wilson]

Pfiizer vaccines to start in the UK next week;-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55145696

[Monster munch]

Pfiizer vaccines to start in the UK next week;-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55145696

Normality by easter, or maybe earlier?

[Elwood Blues]

Interesting debate and Im sure if your wife was ill it would have a knock on consequences, just as a teacher getting ill or a nurse...and I could go on. This is happening now through Covid infection directly, or through workmates or children catching it and forcing people to self isolate.

Then there are the hundreds of thousands being furloughed or made redundant through no fault of their own and the 'big problems' that causes them and their families.

The experts say vaccinate the elderly first. Why?...because they are the group that is causing the logjam in hospitals. They are the group that take up most of the critical care beds.They are the group where 90% of the deaths occur...and that too has extreme knock on consequences for their families.

Newspapers report that NHS England will vaccinate NHS staff first. Northern Ireland will vaccinate the elderly first. Wales has yet to show its hand, but as the health minister has announced that he's seeking the advice of the immunisation experts I believe Wales will go with a similar approach to Northern Ireland.

America has announced it will do health care workers first

Then care home residents.

Hasn't announced any further yet but on CNN it was suggesting they would do other emergency services next ( police firefighters etc) followed by those who were vulnerable ( including all over 65's)

[lisvaneblue]

America has announced it will do health care workers first

Then care home residents.

Hasn't announced any further yet but on CNN it was suggesting they would do other emergency services next ( police firefighters etc) followed by those who were vulnerable ( including all over 65's)

BBC reports this morning that the Pfizer vaccine has been approved for use in UK. They say that elderly in care homes will get it first. Vaccination will be rolled out from next week

[goats]

BBC reports this morning that the Pfizer vaccine has been approved for use in UK. They say that elderly in care homes will get it first. Vaccination will be rolled out from next week

Great news finally....hopefully most who need it will get it by Easter

[lisvaneblue]

BBC reports this morning that the Pfizer vaccine has been approved for use in UK. They say that elderly in care homes will get it first. Vaccination will be rolled out from next week

Couldn't believe it on tonights BBC Wales news. The vaccine arrives at a hospital in Wrexham. The pharmacist says they've not handled anything before that needs to be stored at such low temperatures. Pfizer say the vaccine is stable for short periods in the fridge.

Then the camera pans to someone who has the box of vaccines in front of her and she's counting them to check the contents of the box!!

Hope they still work.

[xsnaggle]

Couldn't believe it on tonights BBC Wales news. The vaccine arrives at a hospital in Wrexham. The pharmacist says they've not handled anything before that needs to be stored at such low temperatures. Pfizer say the vaccine is stable for short periods in the fridge.

Then the camera pans to someone who has the box of vaccines in front of her and she's counting them to check the contents of the box!!

Hope they still work.

Another pic purported to be of vaccine arriving somewhere and the driver of a van had the fridge box open and was holding a cardboard box 'of the vaccine' in his bare hands. From a -70 freezer??? Right!!

[goats]

Another pic purported to be of vaccine arriving somewhere and the driver of a van had the fridge box open and was holding a cardboard box 'of the vaccine' in his bare hands. From a -70 freezer??? Right!!

I saw that photo. You have this image of it all arriving under armed escort, in reality it’s more like an Amazon driver in a rush....

[xsnaggle]

The amount purchased will protect about 10 million people.

[Croesy Blue]

The amount purchased will protect about 10 million people.

Hopefully the Moderna and Oxford ones will get approved and that would give us more than enough to do the whole country.

[Vindec]

Hopefully the Moderna and Oxford ones will get approved and that would give us more than enough to do the whole country.

The actual number pre ordered from various pharmaceutical companies is huge. 100m of the Oxford vaccine alone.

https://www.cityam.com/which-covid-v...nment-ordered/

[the other bob wilson]

Welsh figures are back up to pre Firebreak levels looking at these on the back of similar figures yesterday, I suppose it needs two or three more days like them to be sure it is as bad as it's beginning to look;-

https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary

[Rjk]

Welsh figures are back up to pre Firebreak levels looking at these on the back of similar figures yesterday, I suppose it needs two or three more days like them to be sure it is as bad as it's beginning to look;-

https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary

there is slightly.more testing being done now, but yeah it does t look good

[Elwood Blues]

Welsh figures are back up to pre Firebreak levels looking at these on the back of similar figures yesterday, I suppose it needs two or three more days like them to be sure it is as bad as it's beginning to look;-

https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary

Cardiff 899 today.

345 more in about 10 days!!

I Might be wrong, but I think that 899 is higher than at any time before the Circuit/Fire Break/Lockdown

[goats]

Cardiff 899 today.

345 more in about 10 days!!

I Might be wrong, but I think that 899 is higher than at any time before the Circuit/Fire Break/Lockdown

Is this because of the mass testing of students going on by the Uni ?

[lisvaneblue]

Is this because of the mass testing of students going on by the Uni ?

Some weeks ago I would have said yes as the student areas had higher incidence. Now the MSOA data shows that there are high number of cases in the areas like Butetown, Canton, Pontcanna, Tremorfa.

[goats]

Some weeks ago I would have said yes as the student areas had higher incidence. Now the MSOA data shows that there are high number of cases in the areas like Butetown, Canton, Pontcanna, Tremorfa.

I thought they were testing them en mass before they go home? It’s all set up outside by the uni/welsh office

[Vindec]

Congratulations to Pfizer for their new Covid-19 vaccine.

The same company which makes Viagra.

I have complete faith in the new vaccine.

If a company can raise the dead then surely they can cure the living,

[lisvaneblue]

Congratulations to Pfizer for their new Covid-19 vaccine.

The same company which makes Viagra.

I have complete faith in the new vaccine.

If a company can raise the dead then surely they can cure the living,

From 'boner' to 'corona' they got you covered