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  1. #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Did they ever have enough staff and im talking throughout the UK to staff these Nightingale Hospitals. Looked a brilliant idea and got up really quickly.

    With all these staff shortages how did they expect all these hospitals to be staffed if all the beds were needed.
    They can’t. Think this is why they are vaccinating front line nurses etc first now. They haven’t even started on general public yet I think

  2. #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    They can’t. Think this is why they are vaccinating front line nurses etc first now. They haven’t even started on general public yet I think
    I think they have started on care home residents and care home staff.

    My daughter can get one if she goes to the centre in Splott but she doesn't want to take the chance ( given than theyds 9 staff who tested positive earlier in the month.

    She will wait until they come round to the home.

    Touch wood the nursing home she works with have been really strict and have had very few positive tests with either staff or visitors

  3. #3

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    Nothing to do with politics - it wouldn't matter who was 'in charge', but I heard and read this earlier :

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55403944

    Isn't it the elected Government to make/announce decisions like this, not doctors ?

  4. #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Nothing to do with politics - it wouldn't matter who was 'in charge', but I heard and read this earlier :

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55403944

    Isn't it the elected Government to make/announce decisions like this, not doctors ?
    So at a Downing Street briefing, he should not answer any questions because he's not in the government.

    Right.

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Nothing to do with politics - it wouldn't matter who was 'in charge', but I heard and read this earlier :

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55403944

    Isn't it the elected Government to make/announce decisions like this, not doctors ?
    Perhaps Vallance has decided to bring a bit of realism to the situation in contrast to Bungle who has continuously masked over any issues with a joke and wishful thinking.

    Bungle is now saying "we will have a very different in Easter..."

    Didnt he say that before last Easter?

    Perhaps he means we'll have more dead people?

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Nothing to do with politics - it wouldn't matter who was 'in charge', but I heard and read this earlier :

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55403944

    Isn't it the elected Government to make/announce decisions like this, not doctors ?
    He hasn't announced a decision, he has given a qualified statement.

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Think there is 60 in the Heath, with at least 20 free last week
    Theyve only enough staff to cover 41 of them

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Perhaps Vallance has decided to bring a bit of realism to the situation in contrast to Bungle who has continuously masked over any issues with a joke and wishful thinking.

    Bungle is now saying "we will have a very different in Easter..."

    Didnt he say that before last Easter?

    Perhaps he means we'll have more dead people?
    He was asked in yesterday’s briefing why he keeps on over promising and under delivering. As it creates confusion and undermines public confidence. His reply was that things will look very different at Easter.

  9. #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    He was asked in yesterday’s briefing why he keeps on over promising and under delivering. As it creates confusion and undermines public confidence. His reply was that things will look very different at Easter.
    Probably because he knows the Oxford vaccine is about to get approved and then mass roll out can begin without the logistical nightmare of the current one.

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Probably because he knows the Oxford vaccine is about to get approved and then mass roll out can begin without the logistical nightmare of the current one.
    If so, makes you wonder why he told us in March that Covid-19 will be "sent packing in 12 weeks."

    In May, that the antibody virus will be "a game changer."

    September was the month everything would be normal at Christmas due to 'Moonshot'.

    If he's reading briefing notes now, it'll make a refreshing change.

    I got him down as a narcissist who likes the sound of his own voice.

  11. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    If so, makes you wonder why he told us in March that Covid-19 will be "sent packing in 12 weeks."

    In May, that the antibody virus will be "a game changer."

    September was the month everything would be normal at Christmas due to 'Moonshot'.

    If he's reading briefing notes now, it'll make a refreshing change.

    I got him down as a narcissist who likes the sound of his own voice.
    Sent packing in 12 weeks? Didn’t see that and his buddy, whitty, wouldn’t have sanctioned that. Normally the voice of doom but a realist at least so when he says something I tend to believe him. Often says covid will be around for years now but we will soon suppress it like the flu and other things we need a jab for.

  12. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    He was asked in yesterday’s briefing why he keeps on over promising and under delivering. As it creates confusion and undermines public confidence. His reply was that things will look very different at Easter.
    He's right, but it might be Easter 2022.

  13. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Probably because he knows the Oxford vaccine is about to get approved and then mass roll out can begin without the logistical nightmare of the current one.
    My point was that wasn’t the question. But tbh I’ve given up hope of receiving a considered and thoughtful reply from him during these briefings. He says his bit then tries to get through the rest unscathed by offering mostly disingenuous, irrelevant and often incoherent replies.

  14. #14

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    This just appeared on my Twitter feed.


  15. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    This just appeared on my Twitter feed.

    Not surprisingly, look at the areas where we have the biggest issues. My views on Drakeford have actually completely changed, what a job, almost impossible.

  16. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    This just appeared on my Twitter feed.

    Would have thought the 11,000 added on in one day would have had an effect on something like that.

  17. #17

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    Creation of complex rules (with # of people, households, exceptions) varying by tiers has created a perverse system where people look for loopholes. Instead, focus on why this virus is risky, what we can all do to avoid getting it & passing it on & the underlying science.

    Simply: transmits in indoor, poorly ventilated & crowded settings. Don't go into other people's homes. Keep distance, meet outside, & err on the side of caution. While older/vulnerable more at risk of dying, younger people can get seriously ill. Russian roulette with health.

    https://twitter.com/devisridhar/stat...08604728582144

    Viruses evolve faster in lazy countries that let them run rampant.

    One variant (B.1.1.7) in the UK has acquired 8 mutations in a gene encoding the spike protein -- and that may help it spread faster.

    Excellent piece: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...emains-unclear

    https://twitter.com/amymaxmen/status...51133058375681

    No one is going to stop anyone acting as they wish over Christmas but people living in Manchester are being told if they've been in Wales they should self-isolate for 10 days and act as if they have the virus. Regardless of what people think about the politicians, or the ex-rugby players giving their "expertise", Wales is absolutely fecked if people continue to act like covid doesn't exist or doesn't need attention.

  18. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    This just appeared on my Twitter feed.

    How come India is so low down on the chart? With a population density of 1080 per sq.mile (cf UK with 725) what are they doing differently?

  19. #19

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Sent packing in 12 weeks? Didn’t see that and his buddy, whitty, wouldn’t have sanctioned that. Normally the voice of doom but a realist at least so when he says something I tend to believe him. Often says covid will be around for years now but we will soon suppress it like the flu and other things we need a jab for.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/202...us-in-12-weeks

  20. #20

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    You meant bo jo did you?I thought you meant Vallance? Bo would say anything, he’s a politician. He was almost right mind, we did kick it into touch by June, we just let it come back again. We should have closed our borders for non essential travel I think.

  21. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    You meant bo jo did you?I thought you meant Vallance? Bo would say anything, he’s a politician..
    Think you’re letting him off the hook rather easy there.

    Here’s another politician. Sweden’s PM admits the country got its coronavirus strategy wrong: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.b...-2020-12%3famp

  22. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    Think you’re letting him off the hook rather easy there.

    Here’s another politician. Sweden’s PM admits the country got its coronavirus strategy wrong: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.b...-2020-12%3famp
    When the UK needed a PM who was responsible, empathetic and accountable, we got a flip flopping, narcissist who resembles a Jim Davidson tribute act.

  23. #23

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    Probably the same all over the country.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...efore-19504652

  24. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Probably the same all over the country.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...efore-19504652
    I had a click and collect which my wife booked about 2 months so went straight in. Once in you can then pick up whatever else you want.
    Newport rd branch was really quiet inside, not enough people to form a queue at the tils even. About 40 people queuing up outside at 10am, felt for them as once in people are taking ages....

  25. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Probably the same all over the country.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...efore-19504652
    Still really stupid though - a lady being interviewed said she got there 5:30, queued for ages and then walked over to Tesco’s and wandered straight in

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