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  1. #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Deserving of the same utter, utter madness comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Deserving of the same utter, utter madness comment.
    What are the chances that Pen-y-fan is unique to Wales, or even the UK? Very slim.

    The Governments know there are people like this, and there are people that will comply. As a result, the only option is to make even more restrictions that will, invariably, be adhered to by most who are currently compliant and will be ignored by those who have been ignoring restrictions for the last few weeks.

    Nearly 100,000 new cases this last 2 days. Hospitals now treating patients in ambulances. Nightingale hospitals on stand-by. Still some people scoff at the idea that restrictions should be extended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    If only we had a testing system hey, most could no doubt get an education......
    No need for resources to be wasted on testing kids though as there's no Covid19 in any of the Primary schools. You've already provided conclusive evidence to prove that.

    Wasn't there talk of testing in schools which will be interesting if it gets implemented?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    No need for resources to be wasted on testing kids though as there's no Covid19 in any of the Primary schools. You've already provided conclusive evidence to prove that.

    Wasn't there talk of testing in schools which will be interesting if it gets implemented?
    Think it secondary schools and colleges in England the testing is being implemented at isn’t it? Not seen primary mentioned.....

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Think it secondary schools and colleges in England the testing is being implemented at isn’t it? Not seen primary mentioned.....
    Secondary schools to receive the testing kits first then rolled out to Primary schools.

  6. #6

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    Oxford AstraZeneca Vaccine approval granted

    Massive news, but I just hope that people don't think it's an excuse to ignore the rules.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55280671

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Oxford AstraZeneca Vaccine approval granted

    Massive news, but I just hope that people don't think it's an excuse to ignore the rules.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55280671
    Roll out begins next week

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    Oxford AstraZeneca Vaccine approval granted

    Massive news, but I just hope that people don't think it's an excuse to ignore the rules.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55280671
    Key thing is this line in the Guarniad.

    "And while there are some early signs the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine might not only prevent people becoming seriously ill with Covid but also prevent asymptomatic infections, more data is needed to confirm such protection."

    This could give the Oxford vaccine a real advantage. The Pfizer jab isn't known to prevent onward transmission so a vaccinated person would still have to exercise the social distancing rules etc in case they carry the virus with no ill-effects (thanks to the vaccine).

    If the Oxford jab prevents transmission then people who can't get vaccinated for whatever reasons will also get protected as we head towards herd immunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez View Post
    Key thing is this line in the Guarniad.

    "And while there are some early signs the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine might not only prevent people becoming seriously ill with Covid but also prevent asymptomatic infections, more data is needed to confirm such protection."

    This could give the Oxford vaccine a real advantage. The Pfizer jab isn't known to prevent onward transmission so a vaccinated person would still have to exercise the social distancing rules etc in case they carry the virus with no ill-effects (thanks to the vaccine).

    If the Oxford jab prevents transmission then people who can't get vaccinated for whatever reasons will also get protected as we head towards herd immunity.
    This is why it’s better....

  10. #10

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    Good news, albeit very heavily leaked. There were a couple of particularly interesting paragraphs in the BBC story I thought - i.e.;-

    "However, unpublished data suggests that leaving a longer gap between the first and second doses increases the overall effectiveness of the jab.

    There was not enough clear data to approve the half-dose, full-dose idea."

  11. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Good news, albeit very heavily leaked. There were a couple of particularly interesting paragraphs in the BBC story I thought - i.e.;-

    "However, unpublished data suggests that leaving a longer gap between the first and second doses increases the overall effectiveness of the jab.

    There was not enough clear data to approve the half-dose, full-dose idea."
    Yes they had only tested the half dose on 10 people but 9 of of 10 had success. Or was it 100 people? My memory....good news though Bob particularly as after one jab it will give you decent immunity against getting it but even if you did symptoms are much less severe.
    Mass rollout next week for as many as possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Yes they had only tested the half dose on 10 people but 9 of of 10 had success. Or was it 100 people? My memory....good news though Bob particularly as after one jab it will give you decent immunity against getting it but even if you did symptoms are much less severe.
    Mass rollout next week for as many as possible
    More than 10 in fact.....

    Of 1,367 people given a half first dose of the vaccine followed by a full second dose, there was 90% protection against Covid-19 when compared with a control group of 1,374 people.

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    Lets hope Drakeford and Gethin have everything in place to get this rolled out quickly.

  15. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Lets hope Drakeford and Gethin have everything in place to get this rolled out quickly.
    Why go and ruin the good vibes with a dose of reality......

  16. #16

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    Obviously the vaccine is great news but you have to wait a period of 12 weeks between the first and second doses to get full immunity. That means the population at large will have to continue to take precautions but the good news is that more people will be able to get vaccinated earlier. Another piece of good news is that there are sufficient quantities of the vaccine already manufactured to meet UK demand. The scientists have done their bit and now it's up to the various UK governments to roll the vaccine out and there lies a potential problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Obviously the vaccine is great news but you have to wait a period of 12 weeks between the first and second doses to get full immunity. That means the population at large will have to continue to take precautions but the good news is that more people will be able to get vaccinated earlier. Another piece of good news is that there are sufficient quantities of the vaccine already manufactured to meet UK demand. The scientists have done their bit and now it's up to the various UK governments to roll the vaccine out and there lies a potential problem.
    This kind of stuff is administrative though so I imagine it'll fall to the civil service, who are generally competent rather than our politicians

  18. #18

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    Rates in Wales falling in last few days.

    Is this due to hospitality closing. Or schools? Both?

    Lets hope it continues to fall with the additional measures

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...eaths-19538614

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Rates in Wales falling in last few days.

    Is this due to hospitality closing. Or schools? Both?

    Lets hope it continues to fall with the additional measures

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...eaths-19538614
    Not sure how much faith can be put in figures over a holiday period, but the trends do seem more encouraging - it's too early yet for the latest lockdown to be having an effect yet I would have thought.

  20. #20

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    Intensive care doctor tells it like it is:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55479018

    Powerful stuff.

  21. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    Intensive care doctor tells it like it is:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55479018

    Powerful stuff.
    You're alright mate; I get my news from ex-rugby players, right-wing radio hosts and conspiracy theorists who are going to walk away without personal consequence if their ideas turn out to be wrong.

  22. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    You're alright mate; I get my news from ex-rugby players, right-wing radio hosts and conspiracy theorists who are going to walk away without personal consequence if their ideas turn out to be wrong.
    Who's this ex rugby player you keep on mentioning?

    As for what the doctor said, it needs a wider audience than it would have probably got on Radio 5 this morning - hopefully, it's getting plenty of listens on social media.

  23. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    You're alright mate; I get my news from ex-rugby players, right-wing radio hosts and conspiracy theorists who are going to walk away without personal consequence if their ideas turn out to be wrong.
    ???

  24. #24

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    40,000 vaccines allocated to Wales from next week;-

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55496058

    The downward trend continues in new cases, but an awful deaths figure to go alongside nearly a thousand in the UK yesterday;-

    https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary

  25. #25

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    My mother in law is in a Care Home.

    Been told today shes having the Pfizer vaccine next week.

    Bit strange as i thought there was a delay due to the logistics and now the Oxford is available. At least the home is getting done though and hopefully they are doing other places in the area as well.

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