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  1. #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Is it his fault that people are bloody stupid??????!
    Comes in to thread to defend his beloved Boris

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Surely now is not the time for this right and left wing nonsense!!!!!!!!!!@

    Says now isn't about left and right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Is it his fault that people are bloody stupid??????!
    After you've said this? Maybe people aren't just stupid maybe the shite and unclear guidance that's been given have left people thinking what they are doing is ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Is it his fault that people are bloody stupid??????!
    No didnt say it was.

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Is it his fault that people are bloody stupid??????!
    Well it kinda is, isn't it? If more state funds were devoted to education?

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Well it kinda is, isn't it? If more state funds were devoted to education?
    Knowledge does not equal intelligence.

    To put it another way, you can know plenty of facts and figures, but habe no common sense - which is what's needed in these trying times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    Knowledge does not equal intelligence.

    To put it another way, you can know plenty of facts and figures, but habe no common sense - which is what's needed in these trying times.
    You're implying "common sense" is innate and cannot be taught?

    Intelligence has many facets and only one of them is the retention of "facts and figures".

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Mind you, it is the other board; raving right wing nutters! Explains everything!
    Surely now is not the time for this right and left wing nonsense!!!!!!!!!!@

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    On the contrary, it's entirely predictable.

    A large percentage of the people in this country are ignorant, arrogant, selfish or just plain stupid. That's always been the case, although the percentage does seem to have been on the rise in recent decades, but maybe the advent of social media has simply highlighted the situation.

    I admire your faith in the UK population if you believe these stories are incredible.
    I'd quibble with your large percentage but not with your sentiments in general particularly on social media.

    Although in contrast there have been at least 170,000 responses to the government's request for volunteers to help the vulnerable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Comes in to thread to defend his beloved Boris




    Says now isn't about left and right
    If you have nothing sensible to say don,'t bother

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    I fear for the US (where I live).

    Some people are taking this seriously but many are not. Here's one example. Last week the mayor of Phoenix closed down all the bars and restaurants so what did the idiots do? They all Ubered across the metro area to the city next door where the bars/restaurants were still open. Here's another example. I live in a co-op and the older folks have decided to do a communal jigsaw puzzle to pass the time. You couldn't make it up.

    There are too many people here who slavishly watch Fox News. I walk my dog regularly around my neighbourhood and talk to people as we go. Twice in the last week I came across elderly people who thought it was "made up" and "nothing to worry about".

    I cannot see a lockdown in the US (certainly not outside of California and the north east) happening. I hope people will accept it but I fear the conspiracy contrarians will not. If they put troops on the streets I fear we'll see armed conflicts flare up.
    I was in Phoenix from the 10-17 March working and flew back to Canada then. We were put on immediate lockdown for 14 days.

    Work got cancelled on Monday and my wife was with me, so I took a drive to Sedona... I’d never been before. What a stunning place (would’ve been even better if we’d got out of the car but we didn’t)

    We were in Scottsdale, Chandler and Phoenix though over the weekend and everywhere was busy....

    It doesn’t appear that Arizona has been badly hit yet but it might come based on what I saw...

    I do think that NYC is going to end up being the worst hit place on the planet though

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton View Post
    It doesn’t appear that Arizona has been badly hit yet but it might come based on what I saw...

    I do think that NYC is going to end up being the worst hit place on the planet though
    Eventually the incidence will be the same everywhere. The difference in the % of deaths will be how the local health system copes with the influx of intensive care cases. The longer the lead (planning) time, the better they should be able to cope. I wish I could say Arizona is learning from NYC, Seattle etc but I fear it's not. People here are just not taking this seriously enough.

    Sedona is very pretty. I recommend it to anyone who hasn't been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    After you've said this? Maybe people aren't just stupid maybe the shite and unclear guidance that's been given have left people thinking what they are doing is ok.
    I will accept that not all the guidance has been clear.

    But many are still acting stupidly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    I will accept that not all the guidance has been clear.

    But many are still acting stupidly.
    Anybody who hasn't heard of the 2m guideline must have been living in a cave.

  14. #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Anybody who hasn't heard of the 2m guideline must have been living in a cave.
    They could still be living in a cave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Anybody who hasn't heard of the 2m guideline must have been living in a cave.
    The other day I was made aware of this:
    Ely Bridge Surgery.JPG
    Yesterday I had to go there to collect a prescription and get the medication for my 88 year old father. The surgery had it's door locked and was operating a one in, one out policy. Several of the good people of Ely were patiently waiting outside and were social distancing. Some creature then appeared next me, she looked like she was a bit too familiar with the route to the fridge, and was breathing heavily as she'd just negotiated the three steps to the entrance. Despite the enormous signs on the door, she tried to barge in, then asked me the score whilst panting all over me. I tried discreetly moving away from her, which meant that other people had to shuffle away. I told her to ring the bell, she couldn’t find it, despite it being at the pointy end of a large arrow that said ‘BELL ~ please push with elbow’. She pulled her sleeve down over her hand and pressed the bell, fair enough. No exaggeration, but within 10 SECONDS she had her face up to the glass door, peering in saying 'Where the hell are they'. Usain Bolt couldn't have got to the door in that time. When the door opened, I was handed my prescription and walked to the pharmacy next door. I joined the well-spaced queue on the pavement. After some time, the woman emerges from the doctors, passes everyone in the queue and walks straight into the chemists, only to be told to get out, she was informed there was a queue and that she was at the end of it. She then proceeded to mutter and moan to herself. She had a lanyard with an employee ID on it, so must have been sort of normal. I give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elytillidie View Post
    The other day I was made aware of this:
    Ely Bridge Surgery.JPG
    Yesterday I had to go there to collect a prescription and get the medication for my 88 year old father. The surgery had it's door locked and was operating a one in, one out policy. Several of the good people of Ely were patiently waiting outside and were social distancing. Some creature then appeared next me, she looked like she was a bit too familiar with the route to the fridge, and was breathing heavily as she'd just negotiated the three steps to the entrance. Despite the enormous signs on the door, she tried to barge in, then asked me the score whilst panting all over me. I tried discreetly moving away from her, which meant that other people had to shuffle away. I told her to ring the bell, she couldn’t find it, despite it being at the pointy end of a large arrow that said ‘BELL ~ please push with elbow’. She pulled her sleeve down over her hand and pressed the bell, fair enough. No exaggeration, but within 10 SECONDS she had her face up to the glass door, peering in saying 'Where the hell are they'. Usain Bolt couldn't have got to the door in that time. When the door opened, I was handed my prescription and walked to the pharmacy next door. I joined the well-spaced queue on the pavement. After some time, the woman emerges from the doctors, passes everyone in the queue and walks straight into the chemists, only to be told to get out, she was informed there was a queue and that she was at the end of it. She then proceeded to mutter and moan to herself. She had a lanyard with an employee ID on it, so must have been sort of normal. I give up.
    She sounds like a catch. Did you get her number?😉

  17. #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Anybody who hasn't heard of the 2m guideline must have been living in a cave.
    Indeed.

    And Croesy Blue who I was responding to said himself in a post regarding the crowds round Columbia Road Flower Market that he can't believe what people are thinking of so he obviously understood what the government are saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Surely now is not the time for this right and left wing nonsense!!!!!!!!!!@
    Surely it's time you realise it is!

  19. #19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Surely it's time you realise it is!
    Alright you've got me there.

    Why is now the time for all this right and left wing nonsense?

  20. #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Alright you've got me there.

    Why is now the time for all this right and left wing nonsense?
    A left wing government would perhaps have put people’s health first, sorted out the inevitable financial difficulties of the individual rather than this lot’s pushing on with vague promises of monetary aid ensuring people carry on working until the death (literally).

  21. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Alright you've got me there.

    Why is now the time for all this right and left wing nonsense?
    Well for one it's the eternal struggle and two right wing governments are more likely not to take a human crisis like this seriously but put their friends in business first. If this were a left wing government we would have been more likely to have had a virtual total lockdown much earlier and thereby saving more lives and making the NHS response more manageable. This Berk in number 10 is only just behind the clown Trump in his unsuitability to lead a great nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    Well for one it's the eternal struggle and two right wing governments are more likely not to take a human crisis like this seriously but put their friends in business first. If this were a left wing government we would have been more likely to have had a virtual total lockdown much earlier and thereby saving more lives and making the NHS response more manageable. This Berk in number 10 is only just behind the clown Trump in his unsuitability to lead a great nation.
    Left or right, this government spent about a month and a half ignoring the advice of the WHO and following scientific theory which almost no other country in the world believed was right, they are still not following advice of WHO in terms of testing (perhaps not being able to process this due to lack of staff after 10 years of cuts), are not joining with the EU to mass buys ventilators and are still suggesting Brexit goes ahead as planned which means we're more likely to have no deal after we've withdrawn - more than one clock is running at this time.

    Perhaps transition period for Brexit being extended is obvious and doesn't need to be organised currently, perhaps the UK can purchase enough ventilators alone and more quickly, perhaps....we're spending an awful lot of time trying to excuse a government who had chance to know about potential pandemic scenario at end of January and acted outside advice of WHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Left or right, this government spent about a month and a half ignoring the advice of the WHO and following scientific theory which almost no other country in the world believed was right, they are still not following advice of WHO in terms of testing (perhaps not being able to process this due to lack of staff after 10 years of cuts), are not joining with the EU to mass buys ventilators and are still suggesting Brexit goes ahead as planned which means we're more likely to have no deal after we've withdrawn - more than one clock is running at this time.

    Perhaps transition period for Brexit being extended is obvious and doesn't need to be organised currently, perhaps the UK can purchase enough ventilators alone and more quickly, perhaps....we're spending an awful lot of time trying to excuse a government who had chance to know about potential pandemic scenario at end of January and acted outside advice of WHO.
    Do the WHO always get it right ? Why should we blindly follow what they say when our own scientists and medical officers are saying something different ? You appear to be letting your political bias dictate your opinions on this matter

  24. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Do the WHO always get it right ? Why should we blindly follow what they say when our own scientists and medical officers are saying something different ? You appear to be letting your political bias dictate your opinions on this matter
    Considering the government decided to discard it's science and follow something much closer to the WHO's advice I think in this instance it's a fair shout they were right.

  25. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Considering the government decided to discard it's science and follow something much closer to the WHO's advice I think in this instance it's a fair shout they were right.
    But you have been criticising the Government for not following WHO advice. Now you say they are. Also the chief medical officer has made it quite clear that the Government is following his departments advice. The fact that our situation is considerably better than in Italy, Spain and a number of other countries, indicates to me that by and large they are getting it right. There is no precedent or template for what is happening.

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