Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[the other bob wilson]

Given it’s the Guardian, the political slant taken is understandable. I happen to agree with it, but what interested me more is the opinion that the public are, generally speaking, happier to follow the lockdown rules than the media and politicians tell us they are. I’ve been following the advice about behaving as if you have the virus lately, so I’m probably not the best placed to judge, but I think the writer of this article might be right;-

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...covid-measures

[bobh]

New word of the Year - Covidiots
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55696558

[Monster munch]

New word of the Year - Covidiots
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55696558

Penarth Beach has been like a bank holiday most weekends since the pandemic and lockdowns started so they finally closed the road on the weekend. Its ridiculous. I live half a mile away from the front and have been down there just once as can't be bothered with the aggro. A couple of the cafe/bars have been serving pints and the local gossip is people of all ages, not just the young ones are going down friday and saturday evenings on the piss, buying loads of pints and walking around with friends like their at a festival. Its taking up a lot of police resource just to monitor these dullards so it dosn't get too rowdy. Covidiots at their best.

[the other bob wilson]

Strange that a thread which has run to 220 plus pages in the ten months since it was started has slowed to a trickle in the weeks when the virus has been at its worst.

[Vindec]

Strange that a thread which has run to 220 plus pages in the ten months since it was started has slowed to a trickle in the weeks when the virus has been at its worst.

It might have something to do that there is less to criticise the government about and a reluctance to criticise Drakeford and Co for their activities in Wales. When there were issues with PPE and test and trace - and there were many justifiably - the thread was active but as things have got better the posts have dried up.

[the other bob wilson]

It might have something to do that there is less to criticise the government about and a reluctance to criticise Drakeford and Co for their activities in Wales. When there were issues with PPE and test and trace - and there were many justifiably - the thread was active but as things have got better the posts have dried up.

I’m not sure about there being less to criticise the Government about. It was revealed today that the UK had the highest COVID death rate in the world last week and it’s worth remembering that while Mark Drakeford and the WAG are, rightly, being savaged for their vaccinations policy today , they acted while Johnson and his Cabinet, as is their wont, dithered in the days before Christmas and the price is being paid for that now.

[Vindec]

I’m not sure about there being less to criticise the Government about. It was revealed today that the UK had the highest COVID death rate in the world last week and it’s worth remembering that while Mark Drakeford and the WAG are, rightly, being savaged for their vaccinations policy today , they acted while Johnson and his Cabinet, as is their wont, dithered in the days before Christmas and the price is being paid for that now.

It's too early to compare the death rates with other countries. Apart from issues surrounding the way deaths are recorded, there is a high probability that, when our population is vaccinated and others including those in the EU are less advanced in their vaccination programmes, the number of UK deaths could well be statistically lower even though the figures at the moment are alarmingly shocking.

You are right Drakeford acted earlier than the UK government in locking down the population but he ended his first lockdown too soon with dire consequences.

[surge]

It's too early to compare the death rates with other countries. Apart from issues surrounding the way deaths are recorded, there is a high probability that, when our population is vaccinated and others including those in the EU are less advanced in their vaccination programmes, the number of UK deaths could well be statistically lower even though the figures at the moment are alarmingly shocking.

You are right Drakeford acted earlier than the UK government in locking down the population but he ended his first lockdown too soon with dire consequences.

I assume you mean the first firebreak which I suppose could be said to be the second lockdown. Wales came out of first lockdown one step at a time every three weeks, which is what England is now talking about doing, and was uncharacteristically quick to come out of firebreak in comparison and the wider context should be thought about when identifying why.

[the other bob wilson]

It's too early to compare the death rates with other countries. Apart from issues surrounding the way deaths are recorded, there is a high probability that, when our population is vaccinated and others including those in the EU are less advanced in their vaccination programmes, the number of UK deaths could well be statistically lower even though the figures at the moment are alarmingly shocking.

You are right Drakeford acted earlier than the UK government in locking down the population but he ended his first lockdown too soon with dire consequences.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...cases-12191659

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/bre...vid-19-6913216

[xsnaggle]

Strange that a thread which has run to 220 plus pages in the ten months since it was started has slowed to a trickle in the weeks when the virus has been at its worst.

We're making Delm wait to pounce on the 7000th post!

[The Bloop]

New word of the Year - Covidiots
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55696558

Covigilante - members of the public who report covid rule breakers to the authorities

[Gofer Blue]

In complete contrast to a "covidiot", here is what a real COVID hero looks like:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-55563798

What an incredible lady.

[the other bob wilson]

Almost 152k vaccinations in Wales now. New cases at around 1,300 and deaths 20 - no doubt the final figure is down to it being a weekend, but new cases are definitely falling as is the number of tests being done and this despite it being confirmed that the new variant is now in all areas of Wales;-

https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary

[xsnaggle]

Almost 152k vaccinations in Wales now. New cases at around 1,300 and deaths 20 - no doubt the final figure is down to it being a weekend, but new cases are definitely falling as is the number of tests being done and this despite it being confirmed that the new variant is now in all areas of Wales;-

https://public.tableau.com/profile/p...eadlinesummary

It has been uyzzling me and others for some days about the number of tests apparently increasing before now. The lab in Newpost has seen quite a dramatic drop in tests arrviving for analysis for over a week, the figure being down c 7000 tests a day. it has led some to question the connection between official figures and their own evidence. One theory is that the governemnt counts tests sent to home as a done test and that they are also counting lateral flow tests, but of course anyone posting a positive result on that should then go and have a proper swab test to confirm.
The drop off of tests being done has prompted some to suggest a very cynical reason. As we are in lockdown not so many people are going to work. When they were if they had to go for a test it was automatically 3 or 4 days off with full pay, which may have been an incentive. One person even offered the evidence of his own knowledge that when they were busy of people coming for a test claiming one symptom or another, only 1 or 2 out of every 5 actually displayed any symtom in the test centre, the others seemed perfectly normal.

Very cynical people I think!!

[LeningradCowboy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55704368

Covid-19 was the leading cause of death in Wales for the second successive month, new figures show.

[Cyncoed Slumdog]

I’m not sure about there being less to criticise the Government about. It was revealed today that the UK had the highest COVID death rate in the world last week and it’s worth remembering that while Mark Drakeford and the WAG are, rightly, being savaged for their vaccinations policy today , they acted while Johnson and his Cabinet, as is their wont, dithered in the days before Christmas and the price is being paid for that now.

I think you're right that Drakeford has been more decisive than Boris from the off but his statement today about not using the vaccine up quickly in case staff had nothing to do was ludicrous.

[the other bob wilson]

I think you're right that Drakeford has been more decisive than Boris from the off but his statement today about not using the vaccine up quickly in case staff had nothing to do was ludicrous.

I agree it was - as someone who usually supports Drakeford's party I accept it was ludicrous.

[goats]

The rate per 100,000 now under 300 (295), last time it was this low was early December, schools, gyms and shops were open and you could go for a pint, anyone remember what a pint in a pub was like?

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...eaths-19654216

[Rjk]

seems to be coming down really well now in South Wales.
Wrexham and Flintshire are still high though.
at this rate at least the schools should be back open soon.

[goats]

seems to be coming down really well now in South Wales.
Wrexham and Flintshire are still high though.
at this rate at least the schools should be back open soon.

The Unions....the lefties....drakeford and Corbyn crew......open by 2025

[Hilts]

I reckon May before pubs are open to just serve alchohol. The ridiculous substantial meal bollox a bit before.

[xsnaggle]

I think they should be open for over 70s and velnerable people by mid February.
Off to the pub.

[Allez Allez Allez]

I think they should be open for over 70s and velnerable people by mid February.
Off to the pub.

My kids have had about 6 weeks of substantial schooling since March. The effects are catastrophic. My one son is extremely gifted and is getting increasingly frustrated, bored and worse disillusioned. My one daughter is badly missing contact with her friends. Opening pubs before schools would be the death knell of any Government. They had already done that in the summer, the result a few teachers at our school were laid low having picked up the virus in a pub get together. The next result, whole classes getting isolated because of contact with another teacher who had picked up the virus in a pub.

[goats]

My kids have had about 6 weeks of substantial schooling since March. The effects are catastrophic. My one son is extremely gifted and is getting increasingly frustrated, bored and worse disillusioned. My one daughter is badly missing contact with her friends. Opening pubs before schools would be the death knell of any Government. They had already done that in the summer, the result a few teachers at our school were laid low having picked up the virus in a pub get together. The next result, whole classes getting isolated because of contact with another teacher who had picked up the virus in a pub.

6 weeks? Did they miss a lot between sept and xmas? Mine didn’t miss a day, I guess the school was lucky.....

[City123]

I think they should be open for over 70s and velnerable people by mid February.
Off to the pub.

I, for one, am excited for the inevitable stand off between vaccinated over 70s and the young unvaccinated bar staff