England come out of 'stay at home' on 29 March. Still in place however is 'no holidays'...specifically no overnight stays until 12 AprilOriginally Posted by goats
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England come out of 'stay at home' on 29 March. Still in place however is 'no holidays'...specifically no overnight stays until 12 April
we could meet 1 other person outside our household / bubble from today for a coffee etc etc
though when i walk into town for a starbucks ( as part of my daily exercise quota) town is packed with people doing exactly the same
I see many Eu countries have suspended use of the "Oxford" vaccine by Astra Zeneca because they are concerned about 37 cases of blood clots in 17,000,000 vaccinations.
That is approximately 2 cases per 1,000,000 vaccinations
Meanwhile all Eu countries are still using the Pfizer vaccine where there have been 22 cases of blood clots in 11,000,000 vaccinations.
That is approximately er.... 2 cases per million.
Experts in the UK are saying that that rate of cases ins normal in an unvaccinated population
Is Europe getting it wrong again????
They seem to be losing it....bizarre I used to think of them as light years ahead of us, but not anymore.
Most of Italy heads back into a 3rd lock down
I wouldn't book a holiday abroad just yet
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i...rope-rzzvf9hkf
Can’t see Europe getting it sorted by the summer? I’ve always wanted to go to Israel mind....
They've gotten it very wrong from my point of view. I can't see how this is anything but politically motivated.
Even if this was an actual risk (and figures and medical authorities seem sure that it's not) the risk at these levels is so low compared to the actual risk from covid that you wouldn't want to stop anyway.
On the BBC Politics Live programme today it was stated the number of those experiencing blood clots were divided equally between those who had taken the AZ and Pfizer vaccines yet all the bad publicity was being directed towards the AZ vaccine. The evidence suggests the animosity towards the AZ vaccine is politically motivated. The EU don't like us.
https://news.sky.com/story/who-reass...laims-12247481
Unbelievable.
Let them throw their toys out the pram, the Pfizer one has had the same % of clots too, so this is just strange. It will start to kick off in some euro countries soon if they don’t get their act together....
Presumably the authorities in those European countries suspending the AZ vaccine on the basis of an unproven link with clotting disorders are going to be happy to accept full responsibility for all those additional deaths which are now going to occur in individuals left unprotected.
No.
They'll blame us!!
Can't see those wanting an inquiry getting any joy for some time, if it all;-
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...pposition-poll
Do0n't think he will be able to avoid an enquiry. I suspect that even if he refuses to hold one (and he has said lessons must be learnt so let us hope that is the same thing) there will probably be enough Tory MP's who think there should be one to get it through anyway
the question is whether it will be statutory or non statutory
it'll be pushed back until AFTER the next general election though, so by the time it all comes out there won't be any real damage
No I think it will come in the autumn or early next year. I don't think he will be able to delay for three years
Surely an inquiry is needed even if just to learn lessons in case this happens again
Latest from the EU. What an absolute crock of s**t
They want to block supplies to UK and other countries who have vaccinated high rates.
With the EU facing a third wave of the coronavirus pandemic and less than a tenth of its population vaccinated, Ms von der Leyen accused AstraZeneca - which helped develop the Oxford University vaccine - of having "underproduced and underdelivered" to the bloc.
At the end of the day the vaccine needs to be made available to all otherwise the risk of mutation increases. The UK should take the high road and help out countries with less resources as much as possible - even if they're acting in this (insert your word of choice) fashion.
I totally agree about helping out, it’s the fact that half of them have stopped using the Astra Zeneca vaccine and now they want to block supplies. They have been slow in taking up the vaccines and have only the Brussels mob to blame for their problems.
Help out the 3rd world countries with ours spares
as for the EU, they are just looking like spoilt brats now, its getting embarrassing
Of course. And we are helping those less fortunate countries that can't afford the vaccine, But the EU has the resources, they just messed around and ordered supplies far too late. When we have finished our vaccination programs then we can let them have any spares left over. That is what they would do if the situation is reversed.
Trying to take the moral high ground by saying the EU has given us 10 million vaccines is rubbish. They didn't give them to us, we bought them in commercial contracts with firms based in the EU which we sorted out quicker than they did.
If people had realised how bad the EU were and that they would do this sort of stuff I suspect the leave vote would have been higher than 52-48.
The UK knowing the EU made a mess of things, the EU knowing they made a mess of things (and that the UK/rest of the world knows it too) should be enough. It's not about helping out countries with less financial power, it's about helping out countries with less resources whether that's by their own design or not because mutation is the enemy rather than the trading block next door. Although if Europe and now the EU weren't so close I would definitely be arguing for poorer nations to be helped first and still think they should be helped out moreso.
Do we have to bring up the referendum? Fine, we should probably remember that the referendum was meant to be between a reformed EU (with some criticism that Cameron's reforms hadn't gone far enough) and leaving. No one was saying the EU was perfect and leaving may end up being the right thing to do, but we should also recognise that House of Lords (unelected house) is now larger in number than the EU's parliament, the voting system within the UK delivered an unrepresentative but massive majority who can now act carte blance for 5 years, and now they're using that control to criminalise travelers/gypsies/roma, attack trans people, take money from disabled people and giving the police the power to stop any protest peaceful or otherwise.
You're more successful than Bluebird23 at least
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/e...virus-20198848
Not looking good
Elwood, you are 100% correct.
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