Reply With QuoteUtter, utter madness !Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Should go straight to Tier 6 - with the threat of Tier 7 if Tier 6 doesn't work.
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Utter, utter madness !
Should go straight to Tier 6 - with the threat of Tier 7 if Tier 6 doesn't work.
No need for resources to be wasted on testing kids though as there's no Covid19 in any of the Primary schools. You've already provided conclusive evidence to prove that.
Wasn't there talk of testing in schools which will be interesting if it gets implemented?
Some of my neighbours went today, took three kids each...in the same school classes but it’s not right
Think it secondary schools and colleges in England the testing is being implemented at isn’t it? Not seen primary mentioned.....
Secondary schools to receive the testing kits first then rolled out to Primary schools.
"Why not make Tier 4 slightly safer and call that the top Tier?"
"But...this goes up to Tier 5"
Go straight to 20....the end of the world
Deserving of the same utter, utter madness comment.
What are the chances that Pen-y-fan is unique to Wales, or even the UK? Very slim.
The Governments know there are people like this, and there are people that will comply. As a result, the only option is to make even more restrictions that will, invariably, be adhered to by most who are currently compliant and will be ignored by those who have been ignoring restrictions for the last few weeks.
Nearly 100,000 new cases this last 2 days. Hospitals now treating patients in ambulances. Nightingale hospitals on stand-by. Still some people scoff at the idea that restrictions should be extended.
National lockdown on the way for England.
Oxford AstraZeneca Vaccine approval granted
Massive news, but I just hope that people don't think it's an excuse to ignore the rules.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55280671
Roll out begins next week
Good news, albeit very heavily leaked. There were a couple of particularly interesting paragraphs in the BBC story I thought - i.e.;-
"However, unpublished data suggests that leaving a longer gap between the first and second doses increases the overall effectiveness of the jab.
There was not enough clear data to approve the half-dose, full-dose idea."
Yes they had only tested the half dose on 10 people but 9 of of 10 had success. Or was it 100 people? My memory....good news though Bob particularly as after one jab it will give you decent immunity against getting it but even if you did symptoms are much less severe.
Mass rollout next week for as many as possible
More than 10 in fact.....
Of 1,367 people given a half first dose of the vaccine followed by a full second dose, there was 90% protection against Covid-19 when compared with a control group of 1,374 people.
Lets hope Drakeford and Gethin have everything in place to get this rolled out quickly.
Key thing is this line in the Guarniad.
"And while there are some early signs the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine might not only prevent people becoming seriously ill with Covid but also prevent asymptomatic infections, more data is needed to confirm such protection."
This could give the Oxford vaccine a real advantage. The Pfizer jab isn't known to prevent onward transmission so a vaccinated person would still have to exercise the social distancing rules etc in case they carry the virus with no ill-effects (thanks to the vaccine).
If the Oxford jab prevents transmission then people who can't get vaccinated for whatever reasons will also get protected as we head towards herd immunity.
Why go and ruin the good vibes with a dose of reality......
This is why it’s better....
Obviously the vaccine is great news but you have to wait a period of 12 weeks between the first and second doses to get full immunity. That means the population at large will have to continue to take precautions but the good news is that more people will be able to get vaccinated earlier. Another piece of good news is that there are sufficient quantities of the vaccine already manufactured to meet UK demand. The scientists have done their bit and now it's up to the various UK governments to roll the vaccine out and there lies a potential problem.
This kind of stuff is administrative though so I imagine it'll fall to the civil service, who are generally competent rather than our politicians
Rates in Wales falling in last few days.
Is this due to hospitality closing. Or schools? Both?
Lets hope it continues to fall with the additional measures
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...eaths-19538614
Not sure how much faith can be put in figures over a holiday period, but the trends do seem more encouraging - it's too early yet for the latest lockdown to be having an effect yet I would have thought.
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