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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    sacrificial lamb

    he's had all the blame unsubtly placed at his door for weeks now, and now they have a reason to move him on and the rest of them walk away with a clean slate

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    The health secretary is also facing questions about his appointment of aide Ms Coladangelo to a £15,000-a-year advisory role – since there was no public record of the appointment.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...dal/ar-AALr5Bt
    Matt Hancock deserves to be looked at for what appears to be his role in the "interesting" use of contracts and public money by this government rather than this sort of workplace activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Matt Hancock deserves to be looked at for what appears to be his role in the "interesting" use of contracts and public money by this government rather than this sort of workplace activity.
    I agree, Ministers were much more willing to take responsibility for things going wrong in their department when I was younger, but I doubt it very much if there has ever been a time when a Minister caught having an affair automatically resigned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I agree, Ministers were much more willing to take responsibility for things going wrong in their department when I was younger, but I doubt it very much if there has ever been a time when a Minister caught having an affair automatically resigned.
    Maybe because they all do it it’s just par for the course now…..

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    He’s got to walk surely

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    He’s got to walk surely
    Boris Johnson has accepted Matt Hancock's apology and 'considers the matter closed'.

    You're not surprised are you?

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    No 10 repeatedly refuses to deny that Matt Hancock broke the law, as opposed to social distancing rules, by conducting an affair indoors when indoor mixing was illegal unless explicitly for work reasons.

    https://twitter.com/PippaCrerar/stat...02317053923329
    No doubt it's a question of when he goes but think a large number felt that anyway. I suspect he'll be moved on shortly after July 19th when lockdown easing goes ahead in England so Hancock can be described as the freedom-stealer and allowing his political party to take a step away from difficulties of covid.

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    Just sat through the most ridiculous lobby. The PM's spokesman refuses to engage in any questions despite the massive public interest questions facing Matt Hancock. Utter contempt for the public.

    https://twitter.com/kateferguson4/st...02589448867847
    Contemptuous lobby briefing in which No 10 refuses to answer qs on whether Hancock broke the law or ministerial code. Says the PM has accepted his apology and 'considers the matter closed' followed by half an hour of epic stonewalling

    https://twitter.com/JasonGroves1/sta...02273844269057
    If deputy political editor at The S*n and political editor at the Daily Mail are this angry at a Tory government then it's only a matter of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Matt Hancock deserves to be looked at for what appears to be his role in the "interesting" use of contracts and public money by this government rather than this sort of workplace activity.
    This adds to it. Dont hug your relatives, social distance blah blah blah but here he is all over his aide.

    It wont matter this lots arrogance and disdain for the public will mean he carries on.

    Maybe another food bank in Hartlepool to keep them happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I agree, Ministers were much more willing to take responsibility for things going wrong in their department when I was younger, but I doubt it very much if there has ever been a time when a Minister caught having an affair automatically resigned.
    No but this is the Health Secretary after numerous feck ups all over his aide in a pandemic when thousands of others dont hug those close to them.

    After all hes preached.

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    Government guidance advising against close physical contact with people not in your household was not lifted until May 17th. Pictures of Matt Hancock are from earlier that month. On May 16th, before the restrictions were lifted, Mr Hancock said this (pics of quotes inserted within twitter thread)

    At a different point in the pandemic in September 2020 Mr Hancock said that people should be sticking to “established relationships”. Many millions of single people have been struggled throughout as a result of feeling they shouldn’t be mixing with other households.

    In May 2020 Mr Hancock said of Professor Neil Ferguson’s affair and rule breaking (which led him to resign from Sage): “It’s extraordinary. I don’t understand...I think the social distancing rules are very important and people should follow them.”

    Hancock has not been slow to judge others for what he saw as poor adherence to the rules in other matters. When ministers changed the tiers before Christmas Hancock lambasted people for being “totally irresponsible” for travelling before the rules changed.

    https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...65841712926722
    If Hancock were to stay it would say something quite big about political landscape currently. If Hancock goes we might start asking who leaked it to the S*n and why now?

    I still think hiring this aide seemingly without a contract being registered is fairly big part of the story which will likely be missed.

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    Hancock apologises for breaking social distancing rules😂😂😂😂

    https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampp...n-matt-hancock

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    Hancock is toast. He was already on a slippery slope as Johnson's fall guy but this just about clinches it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Hancock is toast. He was already on a slippery slope as Johnson's fall guy but this just about clinches it.
    You’ve seen the Health Secretary’s statement, so I would point you to that,” a spokesman for the Prime Minister said after being asked by reporters why Mr Hancock remained in post.

    I don’t really have anything further to add.

    The health secretary set out that he accepted he had breached the social distancing guidelines and he has apologised for that.

    The prime minister has accepted the Health Secretary’s apology and considers the matter closed.

    Asked whether Boris Johnson had “full confidence” in Hancock, the spokesman replied: “Yes.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...n-matt-hancock


    Toast is not what it used to be!

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    You’ve seen the Health Secretary’s statement, so I would point you to that,” a spokesman for the Prime Minister said after being asked by reporters why Mr Hancock remained in post.

    I don’t really have anything further to add.

    The health secretary set out that he accepted he had breached the social distancing guidelines and he has apologised for that.

    The prime minister has accepted the Health Secretary’s apology and considers the matter closed.

    Asked whether Boris Johnson had “full confidence” in Hancock, the spokesman replied: “Yes.”


    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...n-matt-hancock


    Toast is not what it used to be!
    He will "resign" after the weekend is my guess. For resign read sacked. However if he lasts out next week he will survive. But my initial instinct that he is toast remains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    He will "resign" after the weekend is my guess. For resign read sacked. However if he lasts out next week he will survive. But my initial instinct that he is toast remains.
    He's resigned according to the BBC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    He will "resign" after the weekend is my guess. For resign read sacked. However if he lasts out next week he will survive. But my initial instinct that he is toast remains.
    He's burnt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    He's burnt!
    He has just resigned now.

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...=breaking-news

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    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-...line/100237834

    A interesting read, the time frame of a mini outbreak in sydney at the mo


    I went to see Cruela in the cinema last sunday, had 2 seats between groups, but no empty rows, i said at the time, if someone had it, a fair few would be " in contact "

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    There's some work in The Lancet on the effectiveness of the PB and AZ vaccines against the alpha and delta variants. To cut a long story short, two doses of the AZ vaccine after 14 days is only 60% effective (in the same way as originally reported) against the delta (Indian) variant.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...358-1/fulltext

    Everyone still needs to be careful. Fully vaccinated people are getting it and have died.

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    Not seen it mentioned here

    The New LAMBDA strain

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lambda-sou...rc=fp_deeplink

    1st Identified in Peru last August, so its taken its time to get here

    Bad news for the doom and gloomer's though

    PHE said tests were ongoing and there is currently no evidence this variant causes more severe disease or renders vaccines less effective.

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    Not seen it mentioned here

    The New LAMBDA strain

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/lambda-sou...rc=fp_deeplink

    1st Identified in Peru last August, so its taken its time to get here

    Bad news for the doom and gloomer's though

    PHE said tests were ongoing and there is currently no evidence this variant causes more severe disease or renders vaccines less effective.
    Good spot. Very comforting for the overly optimistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    There's some work in The Lancet on the effectiveness of the PB and AZ vaccines against the alpha and delta variants. To cut a long story short, two doses of the AZ vaccine after 14 days is only 60% effective (in the same way as originally reported) against the delta (Indian) variant.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...358-1/fulltext

    Everyone still needs to be careful. Fully vaccinated people are getting it and have died.
    Another review said it is 92% effective. It depends who you want belie e, the people who want people free to make their own choices cos or those who want to keep the population locked up as long as possible like flock of sheep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Another review said it is 92% effective. It depends who you want belie e, the people who want people free to make their own choices cos or those who want to keep the population locked up as long as possible like flock of sheep.
    The Scottish study isn't opinion. I believe the science not vague BS.

    Link to evidence?

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