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Most people queuing outside our local shops are fine - keeping a good distance and waiting their turn. But out for a daily walk it is different: cyclists and joggers (in their own cloud of sweat) often don't care and pass within inches - some of them are kids but most are adults. Selfish, stupid and possibly lethal.Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I think coronavirus was in UK back in December - but not recognised because doctors, GPs weren't looking for it - why would they, wasn't transmitted from person to person according to the Chinese and WHO.
My wife had most of the symptom back then, it was instead diagnosed as viral flu.
If it is the case that it was present and active in the UK back before Christmas, then could it be the case we're now approaching peak levels quite quickly and also that, if having it gives immunity, then a fair few should be immune already?
It's a big assumption to make. More likely that your wife was ill with something else.
beginning to think its been here longer than we realise, my son in law fit 35 year old had what was diagnosed as viral pneumonia in jan, all his family got milder symptoms, they got it from my other daughter.
my partners son a really fit 34 year 6'6 fireman also ended up hospitalised in late Jan with again pneumonia type illness.
and a guy i played golf with also had pneumonia in jan/feb
now I'm 62 and before this year never met anyone who had contracted pneumonia suddenly three people i know had a serious pneumonia type illness in a short space of time!!
I can believe it was here earlier than first thought and late January is certainly possible given that the first confirmed case in the UK occurred on the 31st of that month, but, considering the speed at which the virus appears to spread, December seems very unlikely to me.
On this I think you are spot on,had the same experience myself.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...id-19-11968101
Sweden isn’t shutting down at all, will be interesting to see if they’d strategy works
The vast majority who think they may have had it particularly earlier havent had it.
I was chatting to a NHS worker yesterday who lives by me. I knew shed been very ill with flu like symptoms. The testers had gone to the house with all the protection on. She still looked unwell and had lost a lot of weight.
Her result was negative. She said she had been really ill and lost 4 pounds in a couple of days. She said in a way she wished shed have been diagnosed as positive but there are other viruses about.
Im hearing loads saying they think theyve had. Almost certainly they havent.
Unless you were ill in December and had recently been to China or had contact with someone who had recently been to China, I can't see that it was this coronavirus. That's asking for a lot of transmission to get to you.
Even now people are having those symptoms but it's another illness and that's after a lot of spread has happened. It's not as if they are very unique and distinctive symptoms.
We live on the edge of Cathays. Given the number of asian students Cardiff Uni encourage ( overseas students pay higher fees after all ), it's not impossible for it to have been present in the UK before Christmas.
It's also not impossible that what we are seeing right now could well be a mutation.
Most of those students are probably Malaysian, and even if they are from China it's very unlikely they had recently been back in their home country. Isn't the end of uni term something like mid December? I can't see anyone being in China at the time of the virus and then coming to Cardiff for the sake of a short time before the Christmas break.
Again, we simply don't know.
I don't think anyone can have any confidence the virus wasn't here pre Jan. If it was, then it may well be the case we plateau sooner rather than later.
I can see you really really want to believe your wife was one of the first to have coronavirus rather than one of the many common viruses that people get at that time of year, every year, so ok.
To help you out, I just checked and Cardiff does have lots of students from China (it's changed since I was working there, clearly), but I still can't see many of them having gone to China and back in December
I think there are some that have convinced themselves that this is widespread in the UK and there is already mass immunity and been mass infections with either very mild or no symptoms.
I dont believe this at all. I dont know anyone personally with a diagnosis or been told of someone who has it. I live in the Cynon Valley. I just dont think weve been hit YET and I think the same is the case elsewhere.
So important that people keep isolated.
I agree with the gist of what you are saying, but someone who lived about a quarter of a mile from me died of it about ten days ago and I'm told he was a blind person who had never worked and didn't get out and about much at all, so it's found its way to the upper Rhondda at least.
Awful. Hope that whoever passed it on hasnt been in contact with too many and is contained. A lot of elderly vulnerable people have care packages with carers calling up to 4 times a day.
Sadly in the coming months we are all likely to know or know of someone taken by this dreadful virus.
Disbelief really by reading a poster still going on as if its flu.
There have been deaths in the Cynon valley due to it as well.
The think it’s tu e symptoms aren’t as much like flu it’s more like pneumonia. I think most people would just have had normal flu or a cold.
I was in China in December and had the worst cold of my life when I got back but the fact I didn’t pass it onto anyone at work or anyone in my family makes me sure it wasn’t it. I went to the states the day after I got back from China too so I’d probably have been public enemy number 1 if I did actually have it
If you had it I think you’d be aware of it because a lot of people you interacted with would have had it too.
Ok mate you mrs was patient zero
Stop being a twat.Ok mate you mrs was patient zero
Point being it wasn't a viral flu - GP has now said that.
Certainly not Bravo Two Zero by Andy McNab. Which actually improves with every read!
Has she gone back in and asked him since the thread started?
She's seen the GP recently due to her underlying immune system illnesses. Never mind that, eh?Has she gone back in and asked him since the thread started?
My reply was solely to a post by Gluey, it had nothing whatsoever to do with you or what you are talking about today - I gave my opinion on that earlier in the thread and have nothing more to add on it.
Yeah, you might want to find an open optician due to the fact I was replying to Croesy not you.My reply was solely to a post by Gluey, it had nothing whatsoever to do with you or what you are talking about today - I gave my opinion on that earlier in the thread and have nothing more to add on it.
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