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The old mining generation is dying out, unions have less members these days than in the past and the modern unions seem to cater more and more for the middle classes and higher paid workers, Labour is still the number one party in South Wales but their grip is slipping all the time.Originally Posted by Trigger
Same with me, I could never ever vote for the Tories although I would personally be quids in but like you mention I vote for the most needy people in society.
Depends if the workers family have any legal recourse. The company shouldn't be allowed to just not give the correct PPE and if there are no consequences then that blame lies with the government as they create and maintain the regulatory environment.
Government cannot expect private companies to look after their staff to an acceptable level, they need to legislate to make sure it happens.
Hi mate. On the letters to the wrong addresses issue... Do you think the Labour assembly members actually wrote the addresses on the envelopes, licked the back of a stamp and personally took the letters to a post box?
Is it more likely that the admin staff, without a predetermined political stance (just like Tory voters working for the Labour-run Cardiff Council), made a f**k up on this one even though it's what they do for a living and can usually be trusted to get important mail to the correct recipients?
What competence should Drakeford, Gething et al, have shown in this instance to ensure this didn't happen? I've got a lot of gripes about the Welsh Assembly but admin staff f**king up isn't something that I'm blaming the higher ups for.
Seem to be a lot of staff ****ups. Like when during last election, Welsh language material was sent by Welsh Assembly to the Scottish Highlands.
Based on that logic, UK government can't be blamed for mistakes made by those with delegated roles...
The electorate are uninformed again now are they? A theory that was temporarily suspended in 2016 when 'everybody knew what they were voting for'.
Not at all, I'm saying generational bias in favour of one party is always difficult to overcome. After all, the vitriole aimed at Tory voters is why so few self-identify publicly.
That's two f**k ups you've named. Might as well list them all now.
In regards to your other point, it depends if they're admin staff or prominent members of the cabinet, really, doesn't it?
For instance, I'm not going to blame the UK govt. if admin staff from Cardiff Job Centre send out mail to the wrong addresses even though they are part of the DWP (which is currently run by a Conservative Govt.) but I would blame them if, for example, Matt Hancock and Michael Gove lie on national TV about efforts the Govt. are making towards the pandemic.
That's a fair line to draw, I reckon.
From the live wales Croonavirus update
13:28
No new testing target will be set
The Welsh Government will not set a new target for how many people it aims to test for coronavirus in day, the first minister has said.
The administration hoped to get up to 5,000 tests a day by mid-April, but has abandoned the target after falling well short, with the current capacity being about 1,300 a day.
Mark Drakeford said he hoped to see the impact of the government's rapid review of testing application procedures "during this week".
Mr Drakeford held a meeting on Monday morning involving the military, Care Forum Wales and others aimed at turning recommendations of the review into “actions on the ground”.
“At the end of last week… we had tests available that weren't being taken up but that was partly because of the complexity of the system," he said.
“We’re using military planners to help us to streamline that system as best we can. You still have to have safeguards in the system, you've still got to make sure that people turn up at the right place at the right time, have the right to test for the right person.
"And that does take a bit of organising, but we are confident we can do it in a more streamlined way and that will mean more of tests are being taken up.
"What we've said in the rapid review is we will report every week on the number of tests available in the NHS in Wales on a daily basis, the number that are being taken up and the plans we have to increase that number over the week ahead.”
But he said he would not set a new target, citing one expert who believed the number became a distraction.
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Posted at 13:2013:20
5,000 tests a day 'not achievable in practice'
A target to test 5,000 people a day for coronavirus in Wales was not achievable partly due to equipment not arriving on time, the first minister has said.
The Welsh Government had hoped to hit the target by mid April, but has fallen well short, with the capacity currently being about 1,300 a day.
Mark Drakeford said the targets, which have now been abandoned, had been given in "good faith", and he would not give a new target for how many tests he hoped they could achieve.
"The advice we had from people who help us develop testing is that we had confidence at that point we could get to 5,000 tests," he said.
“Because there was confidence in the number I thought it was right to share that number.
“As it has happened some of the things we were relying upon to allow us to get to the 5,000 number a day haven’t turned out to be achievable in practice, partly because some of those things are outside our own control.“
"We were relying on equipment coming to Wales from overseas. We were relying on some reagent chemicals coming to Wales from overseas. Those deliveries haven’t arrived to the timescale we had hoped.
Seems like a cunning plan. 'If we don't tell you what we're doing about it you can't blame us when we fail to do it.'
I wonder if the things they were relying on are like the PPE contract that never existed. Still never mind we can always blame England.
Yes, it'll be interesting to see the Labour stans blaming Johnson for that one...
Its not a political party its government. Government is so unweildly that they can never run the minutae. Thats why they have to call in the Armed Forces and other organisations to work out the practical bits.
They have to take apportioned blame too. Of course they do.
Does this mean that I can't slag off the UK (not England!) Govt. now? ☹️
You have my blessing to slag off anyone you wish (not that you need it)
All governments of whatever hue are crap at the details and in the kind of situation that we are in detail is vitally (lethally) important, their chances of a fail are always going to be great.
"Stans"
I'm in my mid-30s and I only heard this term recently being used for this purpose (despite growing up with Eminem's music). I had this vision of you being in your early 60s for some reason so this has really made me giggle.
Also, sorry if you're not in your 60s, I don't mean any offence by it, just had that impression due to personal references you've made on here
Heh, ironically birthday today... thankfully not near 60 but was around in 70s..."Stans"
I'm in my mid-30s and I only heard this term recently being used for this purpose (despite growing up with Eminem's music). I had this vision of you being in your early 60s for some reason so this has really made me giggle.
Also, sorry if you're not in your 60s, I don't mean any offence by it, just had that impression due to personal references you've made on here
Happy Birthday!
Coming from someone who lives in the shires where the Tory candidate couldn't lose even if they were outed as a conman (grant shapps tested that one out and his majority took just a minor dent), I couldn't agree more.
Update on the cakeydoll Labour activist / nurse at a Southend hospital.
https://twitter.com/GiftCee/status/1251913423358697472
Charity have now deleted their tweet for some unimaginable reason.
I do hope the nurse didn't steal PPE she claims doesn't exist...
Any thing to this I wonder?
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...9-deaths-study
Almost certainly.
Air pollution damages lungs, covid-19 infection can trigger underlying ailments.
That's what I thought, the locations with the worst death rates in this country tends to support the findings as well.
Tbf it's hardly the most out there finding to make.
It could lead governments to target resources based upon air quality in specific regions I guess.
He's found the smoking gun. There's **** loads of PPE and all the nurses are stealing it and giving it away or selling it.
Care to point out where I've said "all"?
No?
Funny that.
If this nurse has stolen, I presume you'll condemn them.
Whilst most of the country claps for the carers please do keep us updated on individual nurses you can find for us to condemn.
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