I thought as much.Originally Posted by trampie09
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I thought as much.
One thing hasn't changed: Wales isn't mentioned in Westminster unless being used to slag off labour in the Senedd. It's not really a Union with our best interests in mind.
Damn, I must have imagined Welsh questions occurring in HoC before PMQs then.
Yes, get them out of the way before the real business.
It is also disappointing that Wales wasn't mentioned in the government's Brexit plans. Scotland and Northern Ireland were.
There is a reason for that historically but its not worth discussing it.
Yes I've noticed that.
18,000 deaths in a month. Those using the death rate as an argument against social distancing are going to have to find a new argument I suppose.
How many do we usually have this time of year?
Can be as high a 20,000 in a peak 'flu season. One point. Deaths are announced - on the BBC for example as "...having been identified as contracting CV. They're careful not to say 'died of CV'. Sadly a lot of those 18,000 would have died soon anyway. However I reckon in about 6 months' time when the figures for deaths from un-treated/diagnosed cancer, heart, etc. conditions are calculated, they'll more than match the total CV -related deaths..
High as 20,000 annually for flu, and this is 18,000 in less than six weeks.
If it's the case that most of these people would die soon anyway, and I'm not saying it isn't, then that would also be the case with most seasonal flu victims. So why do we bother giving annual flu jabs to the older generation and NHS staff?
18,000 with a lockdown in place. How many would it be without it?
I don't get the "these people would have died soon anyway", what is that based on?
I don't think that Cause of death is ever a virus, it's the symptoms of a virus or disease, same with an accident. If a person fell down a lift shaft his or her cause of death wouldn't be falling down a lift shaft, it'd be multiple head injuries or brain damage etc.
Yeah this is true. I'm sure there are many deaths from flu that only occur because of underlying illness but nevertheless appear in the stats.
You either accept both flu and coronavirus in this way, or neither. Using the flu figures because they look good but refuting the coronavirus ones because there's other illness there is cherrypicking.
Also how old is old enough to die? Aren't a lot of these people in their 70s?
Imagine working all your life just getting to retirement and then dying of this virus. Then being discounted in the numbers as they were old anyway. Madness.
Nobody is old enough to die, there are 70 year olds who are younger than 40 year olds, if you get my drift. Some old ‘uns would jump over the head of people years younger.
I agree, that's why it seems such a mad attitude to me
I thought we flew in some foreigners to do that for us?
Bad Heisenbeg!!! LMAO
Wales could ease some restrictions at the end of the current three week period;-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-52396683
Couple of weeks ago posted about a NHS worker who had all the symptoms had the testers up the house and told me she had never been so ill in her life. She tested negative. Looked awful.
Just been told she went back to work didnt still feel right went home ill again. Re tested positive.!!!!!!
How did she get ‘the testers up the house’ - they haven't been doing this to date have they ?
Im not sure. This was the first test. I was told when she was ill shed had the test at home. When I saw her a week or so later I didnt ask if it had been a home test. She just told me it had been negative and in a way she wished it had shown positive.
I thought early on they were home testing but I may be wrong.
Government were warned of risks of a pandemic last year.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...virus-pandemic
Bird flu pandemic could kill 200 million people, says Neil Ferguson from Imperial College.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...u.jamessturcke
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