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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    What a depressing graph that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    What a depressing graph that is.
    The media really need to be sorted at the moment, we all know it’s a big deal etc but come on, not sure if it’s the government leading them to try and make people scared to go out etc but making a lot of particularly elderly folk I know so depressed they can’t watch it anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    The media really need to be sorted at the moment, we all know it’s a big deal etc but come on, not sure if it’s the government leading them to try and make people scared to go out etc but making a lot of particularly elderly folk I know so depressed they can’t watch it anymore.
    There were over 100 deaths announced for Wales yesterday, albeit all but twenty six of them were down to procedural delays which meant they could not be recorded at the time of death.

    I found that graph depressing because the, justified, high rating of the NHS and the relatively high ratings of Conservative party politicians seems incompatible to me given ten years of austerity and almost as long pay freezes against staff employed in the health service. While this article shows it's wrong to say all but one Tory directly voted down a pay rise for NHS staff, apart from four who abstained, every Conservative vote against a means by which the pay cap could be ended and it is true to say that some of them cheered when the result was announced;-

    https://fullfact.org/health/queens-s...ic-sector-pay/

    Also, like Splott Parker, I find myself wondering what Kier Starmer has done to deserve such a low rating.

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    We understand that while the chief scientific advisers from Scotland, Wales and N Ireland have been allowed to listen in on Sage meetings, they have been doing so as observers. Unlike Cummings and Warner, they were not allowed to ask questions, unless submitted in writing.

    https://twitter.com/PaulLewis/status...52259395813377
    We need to know more about how SAGE is set up and how it presents its information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    There were over 100 deaths announced for Wales yesterday, albeit all but twenty six of them were down to procedural delays which meant they could not be recorded at the time of death.

    I found that graph depressing because the, justified, high rating of the NHS and the relatively high ratings of Conservative party politicians seems incompatible to me given ten years of austerity and almost as long pay freezes against staff employed in the health service. While this article shows it's wrong to say all but one Tory directly voted down a pay rise for NHS staff, apart from four who abstained, every Conservative vote against a means by which the pay cap could be ended and it is true to say that some of them cheered when the result was announced;-

    https://fullfact.org/health/queens-s...ic-sector-pay/

    Also, like Splott Parker, I find myself wondering what Kier Starmer has done to deserve such a low rating.
    I think KS's low rating is not for him personally but as Leader of the Labour Party. This means he had to start from JC's very low rating at the time he left and build on it. That, the leaking of the internal report, the current crisis where they mayb e supporting the governemnt more openly than thye may usually, coupled with Parliament not sitting and giving him air time means the public haven't seen enough of him to judge.
    give him time

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    There were over 100 deaths announced for Wales yesterday, albeit all but twenty six of them were down to procedural delays which meant they could not be recorded at the time of death.

    I found that graph depressing because the, justified, high rating of the NHS and the relatively high ratings of Conservative party politicians seems incompatible to me given ten years of austerity and almost as long pay freezes against staff employed in the health service. While this article shows it's wrong to say all but one Tory directly voted down a pay rise for NHS staff, apart from four who abstained, every Conservative vote against a means by which the pay cap could be ended and it is true to say that some of them cheered when the result was announced;-

    https://fullfact.org/health/queens-s...ic-sector-pay/

    Also, like Splott Parker, I find myself wondering what Kier Starmer has done to deserve such a low rating.
    Wasn’t it 76 or something from delays over a month in north wales? Thought we were down to 20 odd death yesterday itself?

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    Some people trust Boris Johnson?

    **** me silly

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    Kier Starmer getting a bit of a raw deal there.

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    Where is Dominic Cummings?

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    how the hell can a welsh NHS trust area under report deaths for a month or more and not notice that the numbers on the TV every evening were wrong?
    it begger beleif.
    If they hadn't coughed to it now and carried on doing it, it could have caused disaster if the lockdown was eased too early. Betwen people like that and the health Minister they are making the government look very amateur, which despite his appearance, is I think ancunfair reflaction of drakeford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    how the hell can a welsh NHS trust area under report deaths for a month or more and not notice that the numbers on the TV every evening were wrong?
    it begger beleif.
    If they hadn't coughed to it now and carried on doing it, it could have caused disaster if the lockdown was eased too early. Betwen people like that and the health Minister they are making the government look very amateur, which despite his appearance, is I think ancunfair reflaction of drakeford.
    Did they have any other symptoms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tell it like it is View Post
    Did they have any other symptoms?
    no pun idended but well spotted.

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    Have not yet chance to see whether correction has been made since (either greater action being taken or clarity over facts presented) but this tweet suggests that Wales left out of Westminster thinking again.

    "The Government has secured an agreement along with French and Irish governments" to keep freight routes open throughout the coronavirus crisis, Grant Shapps announces...

    But not the Holyhead to Dublin ferry route according to the Welsh government which says ‘it is unacceptable, inexplicable and irresponsible that the Port of Holyhead has not been included’

    https://twitter.com/adrianmasters84/...19613575233536

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    no longer required but was nice to see UK engineering firms stepping up to the plate when asked . The moral of the story UK has some briliant design and manufacturing firms . Hope to see the UK expand there manufacturing operations in the coming years . Not sure how but would love to knock china back a peg or two . they just copy most things anyway

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52409359

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    no longer required but was nice to see UK engineering firms stepping up to the plate when asked . The moral of the story UK has some briliant design and manufacturing firms . Hope to see the UK expand there manufacturing operations in the coming years . Not sure how but would love to knock china back a peg or two . they just copy most things anyway

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52409359
    No longer required because it was extremely ill though out and badly managed.

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    Following on from my last past I haven’t seen too much of the news this week either, this weather doesn’t lend itself to having the Tv on!
    As deaths in Wales seem to be low and falling, I’m hearing from my dr and nurse next door neighbours that the Heath is quiet and MS not even being used yet, so are we over the peak? Can we start to relax things a bit, small shops open etc? Get track and tracing full on to catch any new infections straight away. I hear they want to recruit 1000’ of people to do this, how will they do this and can anyone do it?

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    New exercise rules for those living in Wales: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52416541

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    New exercise rules for those living in Wales: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52416541
    Not sure how this will be policed, but can see why it is necessary. Today, my next door neighbour has had 2 lots of visitors into his house. His father lives next door, and has also had visitors to the house. The divorcee up the road had her friends around for a drink in the garden on Thursday night. So, the rest of us have to follow even tighter rules - not because the science requires tighter rules, but because people need to be told what to do. However, this is going to fall on deaf ears. The road behind our house is quite busy today

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    And don't forget Brexit is still steaming ahead with UK government saying absolutely no extension:

    "That means that we need genuine progress by June if, at the end of this year, we want to strike an agreement which is commensurate to the level of our economic interdependence and geographical proximity."
    But he said there were four areas where progress was "disappointing", including the level playing field (what kind of access the UK could have to the European single market after Brexit), justice and fisheries.
    And he warned that the "clock was ticking". - Mr Barnier

    In a statement, the UK government said it had been a "full and constructive negotiating round".
    "However, limited progress was made in bridging the gaps between us and the EU," it said.
    The UK government also highlighted "significant differences of principle" in areas including the level playing field and fisheries.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52414155

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    Starmer needs to look at Piers Morgan(cant believe im saying this) and start holding this government to account for their shambolic handling of this crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Starmer needs to look at Piers Morgan(cant believe im saying this) and start holding this government to account for their shambolic handling of this crisis.
    Guaranteed way of turning people against him immediately. Still lots of people in "this is like WW2, we must not criticise anything" mode

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    It was 84 out of 88 reported yesterday by them.

    This is a trust that has been in "specially measures" for years and has just be reported again recently for a complete failure to improve. what amazes me is not that the error occurred (Though that is bad enough) but that on the news every evening they tell us the numbers by area and no one up there noticed. Incredible. someone must have known.

    the actual deaths yesterday was 26 I think.

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    There is something in what you say about numbers but those being bad do not automatically mean he is good.
    The poll is based on his performance as lEaDer not on someone elses failure. i don't thin kthe 2 things are mutual.

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    i live in llandaff but like to go to roath park to feed the swans, its only about 2 miles and i do my shopping on the way home.

    About traffic, I live on a major junction and Yes traffic has slowly crept up over the last 2 weeks, but we should be realistic.
    When someone is driving his car he is definitely social distancing.
    The main highways and M'Ways are almost empty so the traffic in the town/city is only going short distance generally, and the biggest thing is night-time. The road outside is totally empty and devoid of traffic as no pubs club restaurants ot takeways are open. So again people are social distancing. the only thing I see at night are delivery lorries.

    So although some arseholes are ignoring the rules and the risks, (and some always will) I think generally it is still working and I think the 'only cycling walking distance' and not driving to the park is a bit of OTT big brother from the Welsh Government. The people who ignore the rules are the same people who were ignoring them already so it will only impact on the people doing right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post

    The main highways and M'Ways are almost empty
    I drive to Magor 6 times a week and they most definitely are not

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