Reply With Quote''i cannot not think of too many on the opposition benches being capable enough to be part of it".Originally Posted by Heisenberg
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It's really not.
''i cannot not think of too many on the opposition benches being capable enough to be part of it".
"That is the second post today".
How are you not understanding people's posts without handholding all of a sudden?
I'm the second poster that has picked up on a particular post on this thread, so perhaps it is you that doesn't understand.
these NHS workers who cannot get to testing stations, I'll gladly take them in my car if it helps but who do I talk to that can sort it out?
anything is better than all those potential tests bering wasted every day
Jesus...
You said "That is the second post today I've seen claiming not to take sides but then takes sides, lol."
What was the first post then?
Like pulling teeth.
Isn't this one good enough for you ?
Anyone defending the government's reaction to Covid soon outs themselves as a bootlicker
I agree it's so easy to criticise with hindsight, this is a new virus, and there are no perfect easy solutions, the main objectives were to ensure the NHS capacity was increased which it is and to slow down the speed of the virus, and they have.
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Has it met the objective of ensuring NHS capacity has increased though ?, as it is feared we have not got enough nurses to man the beds, there is little point in having the beds if we have not got the nurses.
"...slow down the speed of the virus, and they have."
How was herd immunity, allow 250000 people attend Cheltenham and then dither about undertaking a lockdown due to a political ideology slowing down the virus?
I thought as much.
One thing hasn't changed: Wales isn't mentioned in Westminster unless being used to slag off labour in the Senedd. It's not really a Union with our best interests in mind.
Yes I've noticed that.
Damn, I must have imagined Welsh questions occurring in HoC before PMQs then.
'Thousands missing out on cancer diagnosis' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52382303
Yes, get them out of the way before the real business.
It is also disappointing that Wales wasn't mentioned in the government's Brexit plans. Scotland and Northern Ireland were.
There is a reason for that historically but its not worth discussing it.
18,000 deaths in a month. Those using the death rate as an argument against social distancing are going to have to find a new argument I suppose.
How many do we usually have this time of year?
Can be as high a 20,000 in a peak 'flu season. One point. Deaths are announced - on the BBC for example as "...having been identified as contracting CV. They're careful not to say 'died of CV'. Sadly a lot of those 18,000 would have died soon anyway. However I reckon in about 6 months' time when the figures for deaths from un-treated/diagnosed cancer, heart, etc. conditions are calculated, they'll more than match the total CV -related deaths..
High as 20,000 annually for flu, and this is 18,000 in less than six weeks.
If it's the case that most of these people would die soon anyway, and I'm not saying it isn't, then that would also be the case with most seasonal flu victims. So why do we bother giving annual flu jabs to the older generation and NHS staff?
18,000 with a lockdown in place. How many would it be without it?
I don't get the "these people would have died soon anyway", what is that based on?
I think it's based on most deaths being old. We'll all become a death statistic some day, so I'm not getting into an imaginary prediction debate of how and when it might happen.
My point is that the "they'll die soon anyway" argument doesn't hold water when we try hard to vaccinate the same people who'll die soon against flu. So it obviously is a consideration to keep people alive.
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