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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    When /i posted that I was wondering how long it would take you to turn up.
    Was that the first indan genocide or the second one. giove me the datails please, I'm not sure.

    I told you beofre, you're a waste of oxygen
    How furiously are you typing to have that many mistakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    How furiously are you typing to have that many mistakes?
    Furious. I expect you to think you can have such an affect as you have such a high opinion of yourself lol
    Waste of oxygen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Furious. I expect you to think you can have such an affect as you have such a high opinion of yourself lol
    Waste of oxygen.
    It was the only reason for your posts being so poorly worded and spelled.

    Sorry you think I’m a waste of oxygen because I don’t think Churchill was perfect

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    Stay Alert. Thats sorted it.
    So its no longer Stay Home. Erm yeah do that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Stay Alert. Thats sorted it.
    So its no longer Stay Home. Erm yeah do that as well.
    Yeah, it's a case of sending a completely ambiguous, but strongly worded, statement to the nation. It is typically British, in a way.

    I can see arguments as people start socialising because they no longer have to stay at home. I have had e-mails from companies since Friday declaring "The lockdown is lifted".

    "Only go out for essential trips - including the garden centre and library". It's getting a little bit garbled - a bit like Johnson's answer to a Keir Starmer question on Wednesday. Make sense of this, if you can.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boris Johnson
    As I think is readily apparent to everybody who has studied the situation, and I think the scientists would confirm, the difficulty in mid-March was that the tracing capacity that we had—it had been useful, as the right hon. and learned Gentleman rightly says, in the containment phase of the epidemic—was no longer useful or relevant, since the transmission from individuals within the UK exceeded our capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Oh no here we go , whose right whose wrong ,what to do ,what no to do , who will be right , who will be wrong , who shall we blame ,who should ( we choose ) to blame ,shoulder lockdown, should we not , are we early to react ,are we late to react . 🙊🙈🙉

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Oh no here we go , whose right whose wrong ,what to do ,what no to do , who will be right , who will be wrong , who shall we blame ,who should ( we choose ) to blame ,shoulder lockdown, should we not , are we early to react ,are we late to react . ������
    It’s bound to rise a bit though....so what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    It’s bound to rise a bit though....so what?
    How much is a bit? Can you quantify that in terms of numbers of people in hospital with covid-19, numbers of people who should be in hospital with other ailments, and numbers of people being measured by undertakers?

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    I see the statistician Boris Johnson quoted in PMQs this week has "clarified" his views - taken from the BBC's rolling coverage;-

    The UK public is being fed "number theatre" by the government instead of "genuine information", a leading statistician from the University of Cambridge told the BBC on Sunday.

    David Spiegelhalter criticised the government's daily briefing, saying "seems to be co-ordinated really much more by a Number 10 communications team" rather than led by experts.

    "I just wish the data was being brought together and presented by people who really knew its strengths and limitations and could treat the audience with some respect," he said.

    Spiegelhalter wrote an article for the Guardian in April which has been quoted by government ministers when they argue against comparing Britain's high death rate to other nations.

    But earlier this week he tweeted to ask ministers to stop citing his article.

    He told the BBC's Andrew Marr: “What I was talking about was the comparisons between the bad countries in Europe such as UK, France Italy, Belgium - I was not saying we can’t make any comparisons at all.

    “Clearly it is important to note that we as a group are way above Germany, Portugal, Norway, who have low mortality rates.

    “What happened in this country was not inevitable," he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Oh no here we go , whose right whose wrong ,what to do ,what no to do , who will be right , who will be wrong , who shall we blame ,who should ( we choose ) to blame ,shoulder lockdown, should we not , are we early to react ,are we late to react . 🙊🙈🙉
    This just shows not to reduce the lock down to early. The same happened in Korea too that’s why they’ve closed bars and restaurants again.

    It doesn’t mean the U.K. didn’t react late and kill a load of people as a result. I don’t understand how some people don’t see this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    This just shows not to reduce the lock down to early. The same happened in Korea too that’s why they’ve closed bars and restaurants again.
    It'll be genuinely interesting to see what happens in the countries that have begun to lift their lockdowns. If those that appear to have coped best with the first wave of the virus suffer significant second waves of infections and deaths, then the situation will become a lot clearer and some extremely difficult decisions will need to be made by the authorities.

    Two things we know are that a vaccine could either be a long way off or may never arrive at all, and that the human race cannot and will not continue to function as it is currently for an indefinite period of time. Cracks have been appearing since the outset and they seem to be widening on a daily basis now, which is hardly surprising. Difficult times ahead for sure.

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    Please remember that here in Wales we are a devolved nation and therefore our slogan is still Stay Home, Protect The NHS, Save Lives.

    The new "Stay Alert" slogan is an English one, not a British one. Our lockdown was extended (with minor adjustments) for three weeks 2 days ago

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    The first lockdown was ridiculously lax, in hindsight 4 weeks of draconian measures would have been more sensible. A slight 3 week relaxing then, allowing a bit of exercise etc would have been a psychological Godsend, that’d been 7 weeks gone. Another slight relaxing then to, say what the actual first lockdown entailed would have had us happier. As it is it seems as though people are beginning to think it’s business as usual, the second wave is quite probable. Are we cannon fodder? Is a population reduction the government’s plan to get back on its financial feet, there’s a few been wiped off the monthly state pension bill already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    The first lockdown was ridiculously lax, in hindsight 4 weeks of draconian measures would have been more sensible. A slight 3 week relaxing then, allowing a bit of exercise etc would have been a psychological Godsend, that’d been 7 weeks gone. Another slight relaxing then to, say what the actual first lockdown entailed would have had us happier. As it is it seems as though people are beginning to think it’s business as usual, the second wave is quite probable. Are we cannon fodder? Is a population reduction the government’s plan to get back on its financial feet, there’s a few been wiped off the monthly state pension bill already.
    I didn't have you marked down as a conspiracy theorist, Steve. You've surprised me.

    I believe the truth is relatively simple: we have a government cabinet packed with hopeless, inexperienced incompetents who are desperately trying to deal with a situation that, despite clear warnings stretching back decades, they were almost totally unprepared for and they treated far too nonchalantly during the early stages.

    Absolutely nothing in Boris Johnson's background suggested he was going to make a good Prime Minister and very little in the backgrounds of those he chose as his leading players in the cabinet suggested they were going to be any more competent than he is.

    Still, at least we've taken back control......

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I didn't have you marked down as a conspiracy theorist, Steve. You've surprised me.

    I believe the truth is relatively simple: we have a government cabinet packed with hopeless, inexperienced incompetents who are desperately trying to deal with a situation that, despite clear warnings stretching back decades, they were almost totally unprepared for and they treated far too nonchalantly during the early stages.

    Absolutely nothing in Boris Johnson's background suggested he was going to make a good Prime Minister and very little in the backgrounds of those he chose as his leading players in the cabinet suggested they were going to be any more competent than he is.

    Still, at least we've taken back control......
    Wish I’d wrote this. Awesome post TLG 👏👏

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Wish I’d wrote this. Awesome post TLG ����
    The worst part about his post is that he’s right but dear God half the country can’t or deliberately wont see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I didn't have you marked down as a conspiracy theorist, Steve. You've surprised me.

    I believe the truth is relatively simple: we have a government cabinet packed with hopeless, inexperienced incompetents who are desperately trying to deal with a situation that, despite clear warnings stretching back decades, they were almost totally unprepared for and they treated far too nonchalantly during the early stages.

    Absolutely nothing in Boris Johnson's background suggested he was going to make a good Prime Minister and very little in the backgrounds of those he chose as his leading players in the cabinet suggested they were going to be any more competent than he is.

    Still, at least we've taken back control......
    But the cabinet have been beavering away all week, straining every sinew, and have come up with a brand new slogan.

    Some people are never satisfied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I didn't have you marked down as a conspiracy theorist, Steve. You've surprised me.

    I believe the truth is relatively simple: we have a government cabinet packed with hopeless, inexperienced incompetents who are desperately trying to deal with a situation that, despite clear warnings stretching back decades, they were almost totally unprepared for and they treated far too nonchalantly during the early stages.

    Absolutely nothing in Boris Johnson's background suggested he was going to make a good Prime Minister and very little in the backgrounds of those he chose as his leading players in the cabinet suggested they were going to be any more competent than he is.

    Still, at least we've taken back control......
    My last paragraph was a bit tongue in cheek Dave but this lot in power do remind me of a film I saw years ago, can’t remember the name, it was a period piece and during a battle scene the toffs in charge were sat in armchairs on a hill overlooking the carnage below quaffing port, munching on hocks waited on by the luckier minions who weren’t involved in the fighting. I do think that Johnson is part of a set who don’t particularly give a shite about the masses. Hang on perhaps it wasn’t tongue in cheek

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I didn't have you marked down as a conspiracy theorist, Steve. You've surprised me.

    I believe the truth is relatively simple: we have a government cabinet packed with hopeless, inexperienced incompetents who are desperately trying to deal with a situation that, despite clear warnings stretching back decades, they were almost totally unprepared for and they treated far too nonchalantly during the early stages.

    Absolutely nothing in Boris Johnson's background suggested he was going to make a good Prime Minister and very little in the backgrounds of those he chose as his leading players in the cabinet suggested they were going to be any more competent than he is.

    Still, at least we've taken back control......
    The blue rinse brigade will soon put you right on Boris & Co masterly handling of this unforeseen event

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I didn't have you marked down as a conspiracy theorist, Steve. You've surprised me.

    I believe the truth is relatively simple: we have a government cabinet packed with hopeless, inexperienced incompetents who are desperately trying to deal with a situation that, despite clear warnings stretching back decades, they were almost totally unprepared for and they treated far too nonchalantly during the early stages.

    Absolutely nothing in Boris Johnson's background suggested he was going to make a good Prime Minister and very little in the backgrounds of those he chose as his leading players in the cabinet suggested they were going to be any more competent than he is.

    Still, at least we've taken back control......
    Mediocrities were rewarded for their Brexit stance with high ranking Cabinet jobs - there may have been times when we could have got by with a Prime Minister and Cabinet who are so out of their depth, but this certainly isn't one of them. I've read a couple of articles saying that the Scottish people instinctively trust Nicola Sturgeon to take the right decisions on the virus because she has a sense of gravitas to her and doesn't speak to them as if they were idiots - I'll just say that their opinion of Johnson and his Government was quite different.

    This article says so much about how out government is viewed oversees and I think the economic analyst who says "Johnson’s management of the pandemic has been almost Mediterranean in style, flippant and carefree,” is spot on in my book and I fear that it's beginning to look like he is right when he also says “You can’t help but think that people have been left to rot, that the interests of the economy were put before health.”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ter-150-deaths

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Mediocrities were rewarded for their Brexit stance with high ranking Cabinet jobs - there may have been times when we could have got by with a Prime Minister and Cabinet who are so out of their depth, but this certainly isn't one of them. I've read a couple of articles saying that the Scottish people instinctively trust Nicola Sturgeon to take the right decisions on the virus because she has a sense of gravitas to her and doesn't speak to them as if they were idiots - I'll just say that their opinion of Johnson and his Government was quite different.

    This article says so much about how out government is viewed oversees and I think the economic analyst who says "Johnson’s management of the pandemic has been almost Mediterranean in style, flippant and carefree,” is spot on in my book and I fear that it's beginning to look like he is right when he also says “You can’t help but think that people have been left to rot, that the interests of the economy were put before health.”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ter-150-deaths
    On a similar theme..

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...QTmzTt70n1RIYM

    "The way the world is looking at the UK is not the way the UK is looking at itself".

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    The first lockdown was ridiculously lax, in hindsight 4 weeks of draconian measures would have been more sensible. A slight 3 week relaxing then, allowing a bit of exercise etc would have been a psychological Godsend, that’d been 7 weeks gone. Another slight relaxing then to, say what the actual first lockdown entailed would have had us happier. As it is it seems as though people are beginning to think it’s business as usual, the second wave is quite probable. Are we cannon fodder? Is a population reduction the government’s plan to get back on its financial feet, there’s a few been wiped off the monthly state pension bill already.
    Do you really think it was that lax the first few weeks? Kin hell they was barely a person or car on north rd....no one was out at all.
    I reckon Boris will say people can sit in a park etc like has been widely advertised this weekend, I guess people just did it a day early which isn’t right but whatever will be will be. Even if he does say today people can go out more, where will they go? Nothing is really open is it? Hearing a lot of independents are going to open up soon if they can, dog groomers etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Do you really think it was that lax the first few weeks?
    It's been lax along. The guidelines have been unclear, we've had people out and about all over the place and very little enforcement of any sort anywhere.

    By comparison to some other countries, our lockdown has been extremely lax.

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