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I really cannot understand this. The welsh government are still saying that they "hope " to have a Test Track and Trace system in place by the end of the month, but they will need to recruit 10,000 people.
Why is it still only a 'hope'? It seems more and more that they are not going to use the one tested on the Isle of Wight.
But why? And why have they not already started the process of setting a system up themselves if not?
Is Organ the Barnstaple Chapter?
Apparently there is a market on 4chan for a new StayAlert VPN that makes it look you are broadcasting out of North Devon rather than a bunker in South GlamorganOriginally Posted by jon1959
I use the Somerset version.
11 May 2020.
On the second one, certainly I’ve tried and Patrick has tried, right from the beginning, to balance two things, the seriousness of this virus as an epidemic, and it clearly is a very serious epidemic, but equally the fact that actually the great majority of people will not die from this. And I’ll just repeat something I said right at the beginning, because I think it’s worth reinforcing. A significant proportion of people will not get this virus at all, at any point in the epidemic, which is going to go on for a long period of time.
Of those who do, some of them will get the virus without even knowing it. They will have the virus with no symptoms at all, asymptomatic carriage. And we know that happens. Of those that get symptoms, the great majority, probably 80% will have a mild or moderate disease, might be bad enough for them to have to go to bed for a few days, not bad enough for them to have to go to the doctor. An unfortunate minority, will have to go as far as hospital, but the majority of those will just need oxygen and will then leave hospital. And then a minority of those will end up having to go to severe and critical care and some of those sadly will die. But that’s a minority. It’s 1% or possibly even less than 1% overall. And even in the highest risk group, this is significantly less than 20%. The great majority of people, even the very highest groups, if they catch this virus will not die.
C. Whitty.
Chief Medical Officer for England.
Can anyone explain why the buffoon Drakeford has been saying for weeks we will ease the lockdown when five conditions are met, they all were last week as far as I’m aware ( fall in pos cases, r rate 0. Something, nhs is almost empty nevermind coping, nightingale a waste of 10 million in Cardiff alone bla bla so what did he base his ridiculous decision on ? Was it just as many say to try and piss Westminster off?
Anyway, I’ve not seen traffic like today since before lockdown, very busy by fidlas rd allday, people out all over the place.....has everyone just said f it?
We are starting to come out of lockdown, although it's going to be a slow process. By mis summer i reckon that we'll be able to do most of the things that we could before the lockdown as long as social distancing can be adhered to. Mass gathering events like gigs, football and even pubs are a long way off in my opinion. From a selfish point of view that doesn't bother me an inch, from a jobs point of view it's a big worry.
The lockdown has been eased.
Barely, here. Cowbridge Rd earlier was almost indistinguishable from pre lockdown, for cars at least though
It is always very quiet in the evenings because no pubs or restaurants open, and I think its busier in the day because more people are either going back to work or thinking of excuses to go out in their cars thinking they are still self isolating because they are alone.
Coronavirus may never go away, World Health Organization warns - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-52643682
Lockdowns without an end date is what's required along with austerity measures to reflect the huge decline in economic activity that impact on government revenue streams. Ending the triple-lock State Pension guarantee is one idea being floated via a convenient leak to gauge public opinion. Another decade of public sector pay freezing is a racing certainty and that's without factoring in the fallout from the expected COVID-19 second wave this autumn followed by the real possibility of many subsequent ones as the WHO warned.
But whatever privations may be ahead those of us who place the lives of those most vulnerable to COVID-19 above that of the nation's and our personal finances shall endure a greatly reduced standard of living without complaint for we will reap what we helped sow with fortitude.
I am prepared to starve for the cause, and shall hum the Dambusters March until the very end.
More conditioning from the WHO:-
Coronavirus could take FIVE YEARS to bring under control warns WHO's chief scientist - https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...G3h?li=BBoPWjQ
Here's the juicy bit from the article:-
Soumya Swaminathan, the World Health Organisation's (WHO) chief scientist, told the FT's Global Boardroom digital conference: 'I would say in a four to five-year timeframe, we could be looking at controlling this.'
Five years?! Kinell, we'll all be queuing at food banks long before then.
Good news as I posted a week or so ago....
Coronavirus antibody test a 'positive development' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52656808
Unfortunately with Drakeford the clown calling the shots it will be about 3 years after England they pass it on to lil ole Wales
Senydd... "stay home".
Vaughan Gething pictured having a picnic Bank Holiday weekend.
Senydd... "ok, we're now relaxing rules a bit".
I assume he'll be gone like those in Scotland and England?
Depends how important they think he is, Jenrick kept his ministerial post after seemingly breaking the rules. As usual one rule for us and one for them.
Jenrick delivered medication and food to elderly parents.
Gething... went for a family outing.
Bit of a difference.
There certainly is, one is going to a second home the other is going for a walk with his family.
I'm skint I just bought myself 2 BMWs and a Range Rover for the Mrs.
I think I have car owner virus.
Taken from the Guardian's rolling coverage this morning;-
"A new study published this week in the International Journal of Clinical Practice suggests that more than one in four people in the UK are likely to have been infected already by the coronavirus.
The study, by researchers from the University of Manchester, Salford Royal and Res Consortium, is the first to use case data from 144 local authorities on the number of people infected in their areas. From this data, the researchers calculated the R-value - the number of people infected by one person with Covid-19 – within each area.
The data shows, they say, that more than 25% of people in the UK could already have had the virus by the second half of April – higher than previously thought.
The researchers said the UK’s R value, which was over three at the start of the outbreak in the middle of March, was now “well below 1”. This tallies with data published by Public Health England, showing that the overall UK R-value is 0.7 with variation from 0.4 in London to 0.8 in Yorkshire and the north-east of England.
Dr Adrian Heald from the University of Manchester, one of the researchers, said:
Covid-19 is a highly infectious condition and very dangerous for a small group of people. However, a much larger group seem to have low or no symptoms and have been unreported.
This study tries to provide an estimate of the number of historic infections – and gives us all a glimmer of hope that there may be light at the end of the tunnel."
He said that he delivered food and medication to his elderly parents... Who were already receiving support from the community - negating the need for him to travel 40+miles to visit them.
He also travelled to a second home during lockdown, which was strictly forbidden.
No excuses for Vaughan Gething either, he knows the rules and he has broken them... but if you're going to criticise him for having a picnic with his family and then defend Jenrick for his actions, you just confirm that you're a hypocritical Tory arselicker.
Actually... I take it back about Gething.
According to gov.wales https://gov.wales/leaving-home-exerc...#section-41078
'Doing other things while exercising
15. Although the main purpose of leaving home should be to exercise, activity incidental to that which is good for people’s health or wellbeing is also considered to be reasonable. Going for a walk and also stopping to have something to eat or sit in a park, for example, is intended to be permitted. Most of the time away from home should, however, be spent exercising.'
So as long as he spent more time walking than sitting, it appears as though he has nothing to apologise for.
Awkward moment for 'tell it like it is'...
'tell it like it isn't' might be more appropriate.
Except the Welsh rules changed after the Bank Holiday therefore weren't in play at the time.
Awkward. Now **** off...
Mr Drakeford said that although that new rule wasn't publicised until after the Gething's action it was in fact decided at the Welsh cabinet meeting on the previous Thursday. My Gething had been in attendance so knew the rule. The fact that no one else in Wales did at the time he bought the chips was deemed by the First minister to be irrelevant.
But I didn't see anything about going to your allotment!. Or convalescing in Chequers and then moving to Downing Street,
Decision had already been made: https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-...over-chip-row/
Awkward, eh?
I also quite like how you've managed to turn a man having chips with his wife and kid into firstly a "picnic" and then a "family outing"
That was obviously a load of twoddle though. The CMO in Scotland came up with some bullshit excuse too but she was expendable.
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