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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Do you think a personal opinion can’t be wrong?
    I once had a personal opinion that was correct. Therefore, all personal opinions are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    No, you are the one making the claim that the test is 30% inaccurate. I have not said either way what I believe the accuracy rate of the tests are, although the various companies producing the tests are reporting 95% accuracy.

    I told you the reasons I don't put much faith in that figure, you have not yet given a reason why you believe the figure is accurate. It's just "widely reported". When I ask you for links, you tell me to find them myself (aka shifting the burden of proof).
    I'm not making any claims you are.

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Here is the claim you are making

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09
    yet the test we had was only 70% accurate at the time
    If you're not making that claim, I have to ask why you are defending the figure so rigorously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Here is the claim you are making



    If you're not making that claim, I have to ask why you are defending the figure so rigorously?
    I'm not defending it anymore than I would defend the earth is round, it's widely accepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    I'm not defending it anymore than I would defend the earth is round, it's widely accepted.
    If I query (not that I ever would) the assumption that the world is round, you would show proof that the world is round.

    If I query the assumption that these tests are not as inaccurate as you claim, what would you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    I'm not defending it anymore than I would defend the earth is round, it's widely accepted.
    I warned you lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I warned you lol
    From that I take it you agree the tests are only 70% accurate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    From that I take it you agree the tests are only 70% accurate?
    you're good at assuming things to suit your argument aren't you? It must be a useful ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    you're good at assuming things to suit your argument aren't you? It must be a useful ability.
    Says he who once worked somewhere where things escalated quickly - resulting in claiming that a consultant was giving us "good news" that the UHW were a week away from being overrun. lol lmao and all the other childish acronyms to accentuate some sort of a point.

    OK, so my assumption was wrong. Which then leads me to ask, why are you getting involved (albeit in a schoolyard fashion) in a conversation on which you have registered no actual opinion? You wouldn't be trolling would you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    If I query (not that I ever would) the assumption that the world is round, you would show proof that the world is round.

    If I query the assumption that these tests are not as inaccurate as you claim, what would you do?
    What proof would I show that the world is round ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    What proof would I show that the world is round ?
    Are you saying you would make a claim that the world is round without having proof?

    Copernicus once claimed that the sun orbited the earth. That became a widely accepted view. It was complete nonsense, of course.
    He also claimed that the earth was the central point of the universe. That also became a widely held view. Guess what? It was also untrue.
    It was also widely accepted that the earth was flat, even with the moon staring people in the eye.

    Widely accepted views can be wrong.

    Share the links of the stories you've been reading today. A simple CTRL+H will bring up your net history, you can get the links from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Are you saying you would make a claim that the world is round without having proof?

    Copernicus once claimed that the sun orbited the earth. That became a widely accepted view. It was complete nonsense, of course.
    He also claimed that the earth was the central point of the universe. That also became a widely held view. Guess what? It was also untrue.
    It was also widely accepted that the earth was flat, even with the moon staring people in the eye.

    Widely accepted views can be wrong.

    Share the links of the stories you've been reading today. A simple CTRL+H will bring up your net history, you can get the links from there.
    You are doing it again, you are not answering my questions, I asked you 'what proof would I show that the World is round ?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    You are doing it again, you are not answering my questions, I asked you 'what proof would I show that the World is round ?'
    Where are these links?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Where are these links?
    And again, you refuse to engage in debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    And again, you refuse to engage in debate.
    You seem to be turning the debate into the subject of proving the earth is round (a subject on which we both agree).

    I'm sticking to where we were. CTRL+H then paste in the links here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    You seem to be turning the debate into the subject of proving the earth is round (a subject on which we both agree).

    I'm sticking to where we were. CTRL+H then paste in the links here.
    Oh I see you are still no answering my questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    Oh I see you are still no answering my questions.
    I've been asking for the links a lot longer than you've been asking what proof you should submit to prove the roundness of the Earth.

    If someone challenges your claim the earth is round, you could provide satellite images of the earth. You could point out what a lunar eclipse is, and how it would look if the world wasn't round. You could also go to a harbour and point out that a boat travelling away sinks out of view rather than disappears. You could even point out how the moon looks in the Southern hemisphere compared to the Northern Hemisphere. If this was over an internet forum, you could post links. Speaking of which.... where are your links?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    I've been asking for the links a lot longer than you've been asking what proof you should submit to prove the roundness of the Earth.

    If someone challenges your claim the earth is round, you could provide satellite images of the earth. You could point out what a lunar eclipse is, and how it would look if the world wasn't round. You could also go to a harbour and point out that a boat travelling away sinks out of view rather than disappears. You could even point out how the moon looks in the Southern hemisphere compared to the Northern Hemisphere. If this was over an internet forum, you could post links. Speaking of which.... where are your links?
    Sweet Jesus....

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Sweet Jesus....
    ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Sweet Jesus....
    Unreal!!

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Unreal!!
    What is unreal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    You seem to be turning the debate into the subject of proving the earth is round (a subject on which we both agree).

    I'm sticking to where we were. CTRL+H then paste in the links here.
    Can't say I have ever seen a CTRL button on my phone before, it is a cheap phone mind you, where is it ?

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    Reading about test kits that Spain recently sent back to China that the Spanish reckon only had a 30% success rate, the company making it were claiming it had an 80% success rate and it apparently had received European Union certification (but the Chinese Government had itself not certified it).

    There are a lot of poor tests out there, I have heard of a few 'false negatives' myself locally, it's very concerning, I guess people around the World are working on this, I just hope they can come up with readily accessable reliable accurate tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    Reading about test kits that Spain recently sent back to China that the Spanish reckon only had a 30% success rate, the company making it were claiming it had an 80% success rate and it apparently had received European Union certification (but the Chinese Government had itself not certified it).

    There are a lot of poor tests out there, I have heard of a few 'false negatives' myself locally, it's very concerning, I guess people around the World are working on this, I just hope they can come up with readily accessable reliable accurate tests.
    Any links to the story?

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    Spain had bought millions of kits and this particular kit they sent back nearly 2/3rds of million kits back.

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