Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Harry Paget Flashman]

I guess I'm particularly sore about this particular piece of news due to my sister-in-law's situation. I know the government has a thankless task in some respects, but some of these restrictions really do seem petty and unreasonable to me, and I also think they make little sense in reality. Drakeford and Co are basically saying that people can't be trusted to behave in their own gardens but they can be trusted in a pub because there are bar staff present. Bit daft if you ask me.

I’m with you. Our family can form a bubble. My wife wants it to be with her mother but so does her sister.

They need to go to the pub to see each other but can’t meet up for a cup of tea in her house.

[Tuerto]

I guess I'm particularly sore about this particular piece of news due to my sister-in-law's situation. I know the government has a thankless task in some respects, but some of these restrictions really do seem petty and unreasonable to me, and I also think they make little sense in reality. Drakeford and Co are basically saying that people can't be trusted to behave in their own gardens but they can be trusted in a pub because there are bar staff present. Bit daft if you ask me.

I understand your situation, it doesn't seem fair. From my point of view i know of a few people who have had groups in their house and in the garden during the warmer months, to even that up, i know even more people who haven't. I suppose the government believes that it has a chance with businesses that aren't going to follow the rules, it has zero chance when dealing with plebs, it sadly means that the large majority of sensible caring people are penalised because of ****wits who possess zero respect for others.

[The Lone Gunman]

I’m with you. Our family can form a bubble. My wife wants it to be with her mother but so does her sister.

They need to go to the pub to see each other but can’t meet up for a cup of tea in her house.

My sister-in-law is terminally ill. She can't go to pubs or cafes even if she wanted to. They've got a nice garden with a decent gazebo-type thing, so she could sit out there with a couple of friends if the weather was good enough. That's not allowed, though. She'd have to go to the pub is she wanted to socialise at all, because they've got bar staff there.

The thing that gets me is the people who would take the piss if you were allowed to see friends in your garden will take the piss anyway, regardless of any rules. You know that, I know that and Drakeford knows that. The only people who will be genuinely penalised by this restriction are those who actually follow the rules. That's why it makes no sense to me.

[Tuerto]

My sister-in-law is terminally ill. She can't go to pubs or cafes even if she wanted to. They've got a nice garden with a decent gazebo-type thing, so she could sit out there with a couple of friends if the weather was good enough. That's not allowed, though. She'd have to go to the pub is she wanted to socialise at all, because they've got bar staff there.

The thing that gets me is the people who would take the piss if you were allowed to see friends in your garden will take the piss anyway, regardless of any rules. You know that, I know that and Drakeford knows that. The only people who will be genuinely penalised by this restriction are those who actually follow the rules. That's why it makes no sense to me.

A terrible situation. Drakeford can't form policy based on a minority of arseholes though. Could you imagine him saying 'Do what you like, because some people are quite likely to **** things up for others' This board would go into meltdown, enough people hate him already based on little in my opinion.

[The Lone Gunman]

A terrible situation. Drakeford can't form policy based on a minority of arseholes though.

On this occasion he has. He's formed a policy based on the small minority who would take the piss if people were allowed to meet friends in their gardens, and the likelihood is those people will ignore the rules and do what they like anyway.

[goats]

I wonder if the people who do break the rules, meet in big groups, bear hugs etc, does karma ever catch up with them? Any getting seriously ill from Covid? Didn’t someone post on here the other week (whisperer?) that a few of his mates had all got seriously ill and one died? Not judging that they broke the rules, don’t know if they did or didn’t but like the people household mixing getting ill in the valleys, surely they will start to get the message at some point, usually like all things, when the shit hits the fan.

[goats]

More great work from the WAG:

From 9th November, groups of four people from different households will be allowed to meet indoors at pubs, cafes and restaurants. Larger groups of people who all live in the same house will be allowed to eat and drink out together. However, Drakeford has confirmed that meeting people from outside a household bubble in a private garden will not be allowed.

Genius. Absolute genius.

Amazed at this, but it’s so young people can socialise for their mental well being isn’t it?

[Tuerto]

On this occasion he has. He's formed a policy based on the small minority who would take the piss if people were allowed to meet friends in their gardens, and the likelihood is those people will ignore the rules and do what they like anyway.

So he should only form policy if the majority are breaking the rules

[Hilts]

My sister-in-law is terminally ill. She can't go to pubs or cafes even if she wanted to. They've got a nice garden with a decent gazebo-type thing, so she could sit out there with a couple of friends if the weather was good enough. That's not allowed, though. She'd have to go to the pub is she wanted to socialise at all, because they've got bar staff there.

The thing that gets me is the people who would take the piss if you were allowed to see friends in your garden will take the piss anyway, regardless of any rules. You know that, I know that and Drakeford knows that. The only people who will be genuinely penalised by this restriction are those who actually follow the rules. That's why it makes no sense to me.

Sorry to hear that. Thats really sad.

[The Lone Gunman]

So he should only form policy if the majority are breaking the rules

If you want my opinion, he shouldn't be forming any policies at all.

[Tuerto]

If you want my opinion, he shouldn't be forming any policies at all.

I think that you're being a tad unfair on the man. He's not brilliant, but i can't see what else he could've done, it's all marginal i my opinion.

[The Lone Gunman]

I think that you're being a tad unfair on the man.

That's fair enough. I think you've been a tad too supportive of him simply because he isn't a Tory.

[Tuerto]

That's fair enough. I think you've been a tad too supportive of him simply because he isn't a Tory.

Ha! not so. I would even say that Boris hasn't got everything completely wrong, just most things I'm no fan of Welsh Labour, although i think that Drakeford is a decent enough bloke. Anyway, you've always grizzled about the devolved government

[Vindec]

There are only bad solutions in this pandemic. Anyone who makes a decision displeases someone.

[goats]

What the hell is wrong with some people, this is what we are battling against, a teacher ffs!

Covid: Teacher suspended after working with positive test https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54795507

[xsnaggle]

I think that you're being a tad unfair on the man. He's not brilliant, but i can't see what else he could've done, it's all marginal i my opinion.

He has to be seen to be doing something, and to be fair to him he could have done a lot more draconian things and has resisted the pressure to do them.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

What the hell is wrong with some people, this is what we are battling against, a teacher ffs!

Covid: Teacher suspended after working with positive test https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54795507

This should be picked up by the Teaching Regulation Agency and she should be struck off.

[xsnaggle]

What the hell is wrong with some people, this is what we are battling against, a teacher ffs!

Covid: Teacher suspended after working with positive test https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-54795507

5 whole classes have to self isolate, 150 children, with all the pressure that brings on their families. She should be struck off and never allowed near a school ever again.

[goats]

5 whole classes have to self isolate, 150 children, with all the pressure that brings on their families. She should be struck off and never allowed near a school ever again.

At the very least, she could have passed it on to kids, their parents, parents off work....nightmare stuff

[islandblue]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ember-12122886

Maybe some light at the end of a very dark tunnel at last

[blue matt]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ember-12122886

Maybe some light at the end of a very dark tunnel at last

A local medical centre near me is going to be our " local hub ", they have a " wing " of the building that hasnt been used for a few years, they were told they would be a " hub " and to expect it for middle of Dec, i was asked to move all the old furniture and clean the place up last week, i am painting the corridor and 3 consultation rooms next week for them

[splott parker]

i am painting the corridor and 3 consultation rooms next week for them

Blue matt?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Blue matt?

[goats]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...ember-12122886

Maybe some light at the end of a very dark tunnel at last

Mentioned this on this thread a week or two ago....this and mass testing should see life go back to somewhat normality

[blue matt]

Blue matt?

fair play that was funny