Reply With QuoteThe UK Government has put in an order for 340 million doses, A spokesman said that it should see Merthyr ok for a few months....Originally Posted by goats
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If there are many from the Valleys in Cardiff today it's probably because they've been abiding by the rules and so are taking advantage of their first opportunity to cross county lines in around six weeks - if they've been obeying the rules then you'd assume they wouldn't have germs to spread.
I've typed this assuming you're on the wind up mind.
The UK Government has put in an order for 340 million doses, A spokesman said that it should see Merthyr ok for a few months....
One of the UK's leading vaccine experts very excited by today's development according to the Guardian's rolling coverage - he forecasts life returning to normal in the spring
https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...0870a6e75faf8c
There are some hurdles if my understanding is correct. I don't think that the effectiveness is known across all age groups and apparently it has to be stored at something like -70. Correct me if i'm wrong. Although, brilliant news.
102 again today for RCT
Actually it looks as though PHW have put out old data again. They'll probably correct it in an hour or so
I used to work for Pfizer so well done them. I understand the vaccine needs to be stored at very low temperatures so there may be some logistical issues but there are companies that can handle it, although I doubt you will be able to pop down to the GP for a shot as they usually only have fridges in their surgeries.
When working with Pfizer we handled several temperature sensitive medicines and many were flown in. All were flagged with temperature indicators which monitored variation whilst being transported. Problems sometimes occurred at airports where pallets were left on the tarmac in the heat, so having been transported across the world they could be at most risk on the tarmac at a UK airport.
Back up to 146 in RCT
Yep....they haven’t been allowed for 6 weeks is it? No chance I’m going in this week.....
They a UK based company are they? Between them and Oxford you would think we are in a pretty good situ
941 new cases in Wales, so up from yesterday, but still about a third down from recent figures.
I think it said minus 80 in that BBC piece didn't it?
American company with a big UK manufacturing base. Vaccine plant where I think European supplies will be manufactured is in Belgium.
Apparently retired past employees based in South Wales will be first in the queue
Care home residents and staff and over 80s first is the speculation according to Sky.
Not a wind up. My impression was that earlier posts indicated the reason why infection rates in the Valleys were so high was because people in the infected areas lived close together and were in and out of each other's houses increasing the possibilities for person to person contact.
The basis of your conclusion that people visiting Cardiff have obeyed the rules is somewhat suspect. Just to be clear I wasn't insulting people living in the valleys. It's merely the fact that is an area where infection rates are alarmingly high.
Incidentally your book is on its way to me.
Well, if the basis of my conclusion is somewhat suspect, your contentions about the virus being spread today by infected valleyites from areas where infections are alarmingly high descending on Cardiff has to fall into the same category. It's been an education to see some of the comments on here in the last couple of days because you'd think that nearly all of us up here had it, when, as was pointed out earlier, the official figures show that something like 3 per cent have - in fact, when it comes to where I live in particular, there was a diagram on a BBC website page I posted yesterday which showed that those of us living at the top end of the Rhondda valley have a lower infection rate that Gabalfa north I think it was, so it works both ways.
Having got that off my chest, thanks for buying the book
I was in the city centre at lunchtime. Incredible scenes. Genuinely the busiest I've seen it since last Christmas. Long queues outside all of the major shops and some of the less obvious ones too.
So, it seems the local lockdowns are over, the national lockdown has finished and the floodgates have opened.
One bonus I didn't expect after seeing what was happening at 1pm - the bus home at 5pm was no busier than usual. Make of that what you will.
Wow! You're joking, right? I mean, that's amazing! It's almost as if closing the non-essential goods aisles was completely pointless in the first place...
Have you seen the prices in Sainsburys
Would you say it was as busy as at Christmas with the amount of people walking about? I presume theres much less people in the shops due to the 2m rule. Hence the queues.
what about doctors and nurses?
No, nowhere near a normal Christmas crowd in the city centre, but then it is only November 9th.
I must confess the crowds took me by surprise today. Apart from a handful of days at the height of the summer, the city centre has been so quiet this year. I expected there would be a few more people about today than there were a fortnight ago before the firebreak lockdown, but I didn’t expect long queues outside shops and so many people buzzing around Queen Street.
The traffic in Cardiff and on major routes has been horrendous today compared with any time since March. It is far heavier than before the lockdown, and there is lots of traffic going up and down the A470, more than the new normal.
Yes more than your typical Monday.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...-pack-19250170
Good that some leading experts are excited by the latest developments unlike our First Minister. I was astounded at the stupid negative comments he made to the press yesterday. He was very negative about Pfizer's claims...." You would always want to read carefully what a particular competitor in this field says on their own behalf".
He doesn't realise that all Pfizer have done is report on the findings of a large double blind study, where the doctors involved did not know if patients were getting vaccine or a placebo until the code is broken. This is how medicines are tested worldwide. He really is anti-private industry.
Then he says "we will decide how to use it once it's available". Wales he says will be responsible for storage and distribution as well.
The facts are that supplies could possibly be available within the next 4-6 weeks. There is limited UK capacity for specialist distribution and storage at -80c, so he and Gethin had better get a move on and get a few logistic contracts sorted.
As for deciding who will get it first, well that will be sorted "once it's available". It needs sorting now. It's not as if you will be able to pop over to your GP for it.
Piss up and brewery come to mind
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