Was Covid-19 Engineered?

[Wash DC Blue]

Is it too conspiratorial to think that Covid-19 was engineered in China?

I’m starting to think that there may be some credence in the possibility that China created this virus or mutated an existing one at the lab in Wuhan.
Not that it was released intentionally, but possibly from lax procedures at The Wuhan P4 Lab.

This would possibly explain the escalation in hostility from The Trump Administration towards the WHO.

The theory is certainly getting more mainstream traction than a few weeks ago.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo...-outbreak/amp/

[The Lone Gunman]

Yes. No. Maybe.

The escalation in hostility from Trump is surely an attempt to deflect from his own failings.

[adz-a32]

Yes. No. Maybe.

The escalation in hostility from Trump is surely an attempt to deflect from his own failings.

Didn't the U.S. intelligence know about COVID-19 since November?

[Organ Morgan.]

Didn't the U.S. intelligence know about COVID-19 since November?

They knew of COVID-19 years before last November. Read my Plandemic thread at the Politics forum in an hour or so to understand why.

[The Lone Gunman]

They knew of COVID-19 years before last November. Read my Plandemic thread at the Politics forum in an hour or so to understand why.

I thought the 19 in the name referred to 2019?

[Organ Morgan.]

I thought the 19 in the name referred to 2019?

Yes, it does, and it's a humdinger of a fib.

[cyril evans awaydays]

They knew of COVID-19 years before last November. Read my Plandemic thread at the Politics forum in an hour or so to understand why.

Bloody hell Org.....Do you really want people to do that?

[Croesy Blue]

They knew of COVID-19 years before last November. Read my Plandemic thread at the Politics forum in an hour or so to understand why.

The fact he was ****ing advertising it too

[NYCBlue]

Yes. No. Maybe.

The escalation in hostility from Trump is surely an attempt to deflect from his own failings.

This.

Although, it's difficult to know whether or not China engineered the virus or not, it's hard to see what would be in it for them if they did. Their economy was slowing down before this started. Now it's in decline.

[The Lone Gunman]

Although, it's difficult to know whether or not China engineered the virus or not, it's hard to see what would be in it for them if they did.

I think it's possible the virus, hosted by Chinese horseshoe bats, was being studied in the Wuhan lab and lax safety procedures somehow allowed it to escape into the population. That theory is based on nothing concrete, no actual evidence I've seen or read, but I believe it has to be a possibility.

[NYCBlue]

I think it's possible the virus, hosted by Chinese horseshoe bats, was being studied in the Wuhan lab and lax safety procedures somehow allowed it to escape into the population. That theory is based on nothing concrete, no actual evidence I've seen or read, but I believe it has to be a possibility.

That sounds plausible. I was just saying that I doubted that the Chinese engineered the virus hoping to gain from it.

[Jimmy the Jock]

I think it's possible the virus, hosted by Chinese horseshoe bats, was being studied in the Wuhan lab and lax safety procedures somehow allowed it to escape into the population. That theory is based on nothing concrete, no actual evidence I've seen or read, but I believe it has to be a possibility.

That sounds more than plausible...

[Bluebina]

That sounds more than plausible...

Yes it does and people have written about that scenario many times.

[ToTaL ITK]

This.

Although, it's difficult to know whether or not China engineered the virus or not, it's hard to see what would be in it for them if they did. Their economy was slowing down before this started. Now it's in decline.

It's rumoured that china bought up loys of PPE gear back in Jan/feb from around the world and are now happily selling it back to us.

[City123]

It's rumoured that china bought up loys of PPE gear back in Jan/feb from around the world and are now happily selling it back to us.

Wonder if that might have something to do with the pandemic they experienced in January and February?

[Rjk]

Wonder if that might have something to do with the pandemic they experienced in January and February?

[jon1959]

It's rumoured that china bought up loys of PPE gear back in Jan/feb from around the world and are now happily selling it back to us.

The EU donated a lot of PPE and other equipment to China in January. In March the Chinese donated it back!

[City123]

Is it too conspiratorial to think that Covid-19 was engineered in China?

I’m starting to think that there may be some credence in the possibility that China created this virus or mutated an existing one at the lab in Wuhan.
Not that it was released intentionally, but possibly from lax procedures at The Wuhan P4 Lab.

This would possibly explain the escalation in hostility from The Trump Administration towards the WHO.

The theory is certainly getting more mainstream traction than a few weeks ago.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo...-outbreak/amp/

Deflection

[lardy]

Deflection

Exactly. Trump is not a subtle guy, if he knew something he'd get the sledgehammer out.

He needs someone to blame for his administration's terrible response, which has been focused on greatly in the last few days. He doesn't really want to fall out too much with China because the Trump Org, and Ivanka, need them for business, so the WHO it is.

Just like when he attacked and withdrew from the Paris Agreement, he's not bothered about what damage it causes.

[Wash DC Blue]

Yes. No. Maybe.

The escalation in hostility from Trump is surely an attempt to deflect from his own failings.

Quite possibly.

I have a feeling though that evidence may emerge about its engineering and the WHO lap-dogging towards China may be seen in a different light.

[Wash DC Blue]

This.

Although, it's difficult to know whether or not China engineered the virus or not, it's hard to see what would be in it for them if they did. Their economy was slowing down before this started. Now it's in decline.

Maybe I should have left Trump and the WHO out of the post as it will derail the real question I was thinking about.

Which is essentially was...what are the chances that the Covid-19 virus was engineered in China?

A theory could be that they were developing biological weapons as have other countries have or possibly were looking at potential Bat CV vaccines and the security measures were to lax and it escaped.

[lardy]

Maybe I should have left Trump and the WHO out of the post as it will derail the real question I was thinking about.

Which is essentially was...what are the chances that the Covid-19 virus was engineered in China?

A theory could be that they were developing biological weapons as have other countries have or possibly were looking at potential Bat CV vaccines and the security measures were to lax and it escaped.

Not according to this.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...nalysis-nature




It was clear “almost overnight” that the virus wasn’t human-made, Andersen says. Anyone hoping to create a virus would need to work with already known viruses and engineer them to have desired properties.

But the SARS-CoV-2 virus has components that differ from those of previously known viruses, so they had to come from an unknown virus or viruses in nature. “Genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone,” Andersen and colleagues write in the study.

“This is not a virus somebody would have conceived of and cobbled together. It has too many distinct features, some of which are counterintuitive,” Garry says. “You wouldn’t do this if you were trying to make a more deadly virus.”

[CCFCC3PO]

Not according to this.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...nalysis-nature




It was clear “almost overnight” that the virus wasn’t human-made, Andersen says. Anyone hoping to create a virus would need to work with already known viruses and engineer them to have desired properties.

But the SARS-CoV-2 virus has components that differ from those of previously known viruses, so they had to come from an unknown virus or viruses in nature. “Genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone,” Andersen and colleagues write in the study.

“This is not a virus somebody would have conceived of and cobbled together. It has too many distinct features, some of which are counterintuitive,” Garry says. “You wouldn’t do this if you were trying to make a more deadly virus.”

Great post.

[dml1954]

Maybe I should have left Trump and the WHO out of the post as it will derail the real question I was thinking about.

Which is essentially was...what are the chances that the Covid-19 virus was engineered in China?

A theory could be that they were developing biological weapons as have other countries have or possibly were looking at potential Bat CV vaccines and the security measures were to lax and it escaped.

Develop a biological weapon that mainly kills old, vulnerable people and in the vast majority of people hardly any symptoms ?? Also killing their own population appears rather counterproductive. Its all conspiracy theories and supposition.

[xsnaggle]

Develop a biological weapon that mainly kills old, vulnerable people and in the vast majority of people hardly any symptoms ?? Also killing their own population appears rather counterproductive. Its all conspiracy theories and supposition.

That didn't appear to bother Pol Pot or Mao or stalin or Hitler