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    "I don't doubt the likes of Lardy and Cyril would spend most of their waking hours snitching down the blower."


    Just the one barrel next time, Mr Organ Sir, that was too brutal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    "I don't doubt the likes of Lardy and Cyril would spend most of their waking hours snitching down the blower."


    Just the one barrel next time, Mr Organ Sir, that was too brutal!
    It's almost a belief that those on the receiving end of these brutal punishment beatings have the same gossamer-like skin as those dishing it out!

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    It's a little sad but I'm happy to admit that after a week of pubs being shut down I went through Wetherspooning withdrawal symptoms. Now, less than a month on, I really wouldn't care a jot if they remain closed for a few years (perhaps forever) because that's my expectation after taking heed of what Whitty, Gates and that WHO boss have signalled to anyone who's prepared to listen and readjust accordingly. Believing in the false hope that a full return to life as it was before any of these restrictions came in might be just another month away is going to wear many people down.

    The NHS is overwhelmed/hospitals are jam-packed message seems to have waned because from what I've read they are not any longer. What's going to keep young, fit and healthy people indoors then once swelteringly hot days arrive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Deleted by youtube after reaching 5 million views. They also boot any video linking 5g to COVID-19.

    “The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.” Malcolm X.

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    Re: Lives vs. livelihoods & a gutted UK economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Deleted by youtube after reaching 5 million views. They also boot any video linking 5g to COVID-19.

    “The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.” Malcolm X.
    I've not looked for it, but a channel i was watching a little earlier did say that it has been restored. It's a very informative video.

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    413 new hospital deaths in the UK, the lowest daily total this month. That news is on the back of learning another Nightingale hospital is surplus to current requirements: Coronavirus: Birmingham's Nightingale hospital 'has no patients' - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ngham-52430855

    I'm struggling more today than yesterday at how the government and media will be able to maintain a fear factor level high enough in the months ahead to keep people indoors when they'll be unable to deal the 'protect the NHS' card at every opportunity.

    Watching Raab earlier it remains plain that the last restriction to be lifted will be the social distancing one. For as long as that one stays then mass gatherings (at the football, etc) will not be possible and it would be very doubtful whether a single pub, club, cafe or restaurant in the UK would be viable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    413 new hospital deaths in the UK, the lowest daily total this month. That news is on the back of learning another Nightingale hospital is surplus to current requirements: Coronavirus: Birmingham's Nightingale hospital 'has no patients' - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ngham-52430855

    I'm struggling more today than yesterday at how the government and media will be able to maintain a fear factor level high enough in the months ahead to keep people indoors when they'll be unable to deal the 'protect the NHS' card at every opportunity.

    Watching Raab earlier it remains plain that the last restriction to be lifted will be the social distancing one. For as long as that one stays then mass gatherings (at the football, etc) will not be possible and it would be very doubtful whether a single pub, club, cafe or restaurant in the UK would be viable.
    All diseases that lead to death are terrible, but I'm just not seeing a once in a hundred years catastrophic event here. Some of the media coverage, and even a few posters on here have been totally OTT. If Dr Birx is right about the end of May, then we are looking at a cycle similar to regular flu, which is around 4 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    All diseases that lead to death are terrible, but I'm just not seeing a once in a hundred years catastrophic event here.
    Call me a madman by all means, but I’ve got a suspicion that the measures which have been introduced all over the world to combat this virus just might have contributed towards lowering the potential death rates. I appreciate that’s a wacky, outlandish viewpoint, but I think there might be something in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Call me a madman by all means, but I’ve got a suspicion that the measures which have been introduced all over the world to combat this virus just might have contributed towards lowering the potential death rates. I appreciate that’s a wacky, outlandish viewpoint, but I think there might be something in it.
    Of course they did and I think we did it slightly too late in the this country .

    I would have taken all flights down as well and flown back stranded folk on military airplanes and put them in 7 day forced quarantine

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    Re: Lives vs. livelihoods & a gutted UK economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    413 new hospital deaths in the UK, the lowest daily total this month. That news is on the back of learning another Nightingale hospital is surplus to current requirements: Coronavirus: Birmingham's Nightingale hospital 'has no patients' - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...ngham-52430855

    I'm struggling more today than yesterday at how the government and media will be able to maintain a fear factor level high enough in the months ahead to keep people indoors when they'll be unable to deal the 'protect the NHS' card at every opportunity.

    Watching Raab earlier it remains plain that the last restriction to be lifted will be the social distancing one. For as long as that one stays then mass gatherings (at the football, etc) will not be possible and it would be very doubtful whether a single pub, club, cafe or restaurant in the UK would be viable.
    IMO, we will follow America and civil disorder will creep in, the two vids that WB posted above, I watched these yesterday, these doctors are using real data and not models, can their advice/knowledge regarding the immune system be refuted? Johnson needs to start introducing the open down, agree with pubs, cafes, sports events will be last to open up but he might have to start relenting before the public takes into their own hands, Sweden do not seem to be relenting of their policy and unless their curve has gone south over the past few days, their curve isn't that far away from countries who went all in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    All diseases that lead to death are terrible, but I'm just not seeing a once in a hundred years catastrophic event here. Some of the media coverage, and even a few posters on here have been totally OTT. If Dr Birx is right about the end of May, then we are looking at a cycle similar to regular flu, which is around 4 months.
    The current 'manageable' situation is because of measures that were put in place. Measures which you didn't support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    The current 'manageable' situation is because of measures that were put in place. Measures which you didn't support.
    I didn't support them going on forever like some people are calling for, and some countries that did nothing haven't had a once in a hundred years catastrophic situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I didn't support them going on forever like some people are calling for, and some countries that did nothing haven't had a once in a hundred years catastrophic situation.
    Come on, is there one person anywhere who has experienced a lockdown who wants it go on forever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Come on, is there one person anywhere who has experienced a lockdown who wants it go on forever?
    Bill Gates reckons it's Pandemic 1, in a series of 1001 pandemics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Bill Gates reckons it's Pandemic 1, in a series of 1001 pandemics!
    Which doesn't answer my question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I didn't support them going on forever like some people are calling for, and some countries that did nothing haven't had a once in a hundred years catastrophic situation.
    Who has done nothing and what is this about a 'once in a hundred years catastrophic situation'?

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    360 new hospital deaths in the UK, another successive daily low for the month of April but Johnson says Blighty's at the point of maximum risk - who's he trying to kid?

    The playbook seems to entail scaring as many people as possible to continue hiding behind the settee until October time by talking up the spectre of a terrifying second wave.

    That script will become worn out within a fortnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    360 new hospital deaths in the UK, another successive daily low for the month of April but Johnson says Blighty's at the point of maximum risk - who's he trying to kid?
    Who knows, but he’s never going to kid you. After all, you know for a fact that it’s no worse than the flu, it only kills Asians and it was referenced in a prison document published as far back as 2015.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    360 new hospital deaths in the UK, another successive daily low for the month of April but Johnson says Blighty's at the point of maximum risk - who's he trying to kid?

    The playbook seems to entail scaring as many people as possible to continue hiding behind the settee until October time by talking up the spectre of a terrifying second wave.

    That script will become worn out within a fortnight.
    You sneer about people "hiding behind the settees", but you were doing the same thing a few weeks back weren't you, are you now following the example of those across the Atlantic who are openly defying social distancing and isolation rules?

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    Re: Lives vs. livelihoods & a gutted UK economy

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    You sneer about people "hiding behind the settees", but you were doing the same thing a few weeks back weren't you, are you now following the example of those across the Atlantic who are openly defying social distancing and isolation rules?
    He has ventured to Cardiff on the bus during 'lockdown', Bob. Absolute maverick is this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    You sneer about people "hiding behind the settees", but you were doing the same thing a few weeks back weren't you, are you now following the example of those across the Atlantic who are openly defying social distancing and isolation rules?
    586 new hospital deaths in the UK since yesterday, Bobsy, an increase on both the previous two days. You and I can go back to worrying about the invisible enemy.

    Of course I'll continue to abide by government edicts. The settees remark concerned those who never leave their homes.

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    I'm hedged every which way for whatever may lie ahead.

    When I was circa 18-20 I had seasonal flu for the only time. I'd never felt so ill; didn't have the strength to get out of bed for at least a week. I wouldn't fancy contracting similar nearly 40 years on. It's no surprise to me that 90% of UK dead are 60+ and that the mortality rate for those younger is minuscule because it has always been the way as anyone who has been able to filter out the hysteria is able to determine.

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    Re: Lives vs. livelihoods & a gutted UK economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    I'm hedged every which way for whatever may lie ahead.

    When I was circa 18-20 I had seasonal flu for the only time. I'd never felt so ill; didn't have the strength to get out of bed for at least a week. I wouldn't fancy contracting similar nearly 40 years on. It's no surprise to me that 90% of UK dead are 60+ and that the mortality rate for those younger is minuscule because it has always been the way as anyone who has been able to filter out the hysteria is able to determine.
    "Filter out the hysteria".

    You thought PHE had put Covid-19 in a 2015 prison health document and you want to talk to people about what's hysterical? Amazing

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    Ah, Bill's fanboy makes a bow in this thread but not to add anything of worth. It's juvenile and true to form.



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