.Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Can't t disagree with your last paragraph.
But racial slurs should not be allowed on this board in any shape or form.
It is the second time he has used the word in the last couple of days.
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Can't t disagree with your last paragraph.
But racial slurs should not be allowed on this board in any shape or form.
It is the second time he has used the word in the last couple of days.
Yep, I am British 🇬🇧❤️ He would be a disgrace to the country. A similar analogy would be if his parents went to another country that allowed Brits to come but he restricted the ability for Brits to enter when he gets power so that his parents wouldn’t even be allowed to enter. That is being a sell-out.
And that is why I used the term ‘coconut’. To mean a ‘sell-out’, not that there is anything wrong with being white or white on the inside
OK, just to be clear then, if Johnson was doing exactly what you said in the first paragraph, you would call him a coconut?
We could argue that he has betrayed a British Citizen already, Zaghari-Ratcliffe for example, by being spineless (bringing it back on topic as much as possible). Does coconut apply to him in this case?
He would be a ‘sell-out’, which is synonymous to ‘coconut’ in the case of Priti Patel
But he wouldn't be a coconut? Despite the fact that both he and Patel are British - just like you and I?
Let’s say a working class person gets power and has a policy that negatively affects the working classes... would the term ‘class traitor’ be valid?
I'm more interested in your syntax. When can I use the word coconut?
In my opinion, yes, although i suppose it depends whether that person identified as 'working class' politically in the first place. There are plenty of working class tories.
Not speaking for anyone but if you are calling out a sell-out then I don’t care. I remember when Sludge called Priti Patel an ‘uncle Tom’ and I agreed.
Mind you I have been called a ‘coconut’ beforeand I admit I am a bit of one tbh
OK, I am still none the wiser which makes me reaffirm my original thoughts that the term coconut is pretty unpleasant.Not speaking for anyone but if you are calling out a sell-out then I don’t care. I remember when Sludge called Priti Patel an ‘uncle Tom’ and I agreed.
Mind you I have been called a ‘coconut’ before
It is an unpleasant term, although from my understanding it isn't simply about skin colour per se, it's about culture, history, oppression and historical racism received by black people from a racist establishment. It's usually aimed towards those who apologise for racists and who go along with policy that affects the poorest and most disadvantaged, that's alot of black people in this country. I don't like the term and wouldn't use it, it would sound much worse from a white man like myself.
You shouldn't
It is regarded as a racial slur
A Bristol councillor was convicted of racial harassment in 2012 for using it
And a UKIP AM was suspended from the Assembly for using the term in 2018 when referring to Chuka Umuna
Cummings was getting a lot of stick on the walk back to his flat/house from neighbours. Water off a duck's back, but I think it has also been confirmed he was at Barnard's castle on his wife's birthday on April 12th.
Johnson has got to act, or go down with the ship.
His one line of defence was brilliant.
“I think he followed the instincts of every father and every parent, and I do not mark him down for that,” Johnson told the daily Downing Street press briefing.
This coming from a man who left 4 kids aged all under 8 to go and **** someone else.
He’s shagging us all mind if he manages to get away with supporting Cummings.
Yeah, the government has lost some legitimacy. The worry now is whether people would begin to fail to see the point of lockdown after the revelations. And that is concerning after we all made so much progress and sacrificed (to some extend) a bit
I think he was already writing the headlines for his supporting papers by easing the lockdown. Sugar to help the medicine go down.
The bulk of us have made no sacrifice. Most can now speak to parents or loved ones via Zoom etc.
There have been around 33k who’ve made tremendous sacrifices like letting loved ones die pretty much alone, or the full family of that 13 year old being unable to attend his funeral.
To most of us it’s two fingers up to the plebs. To those poor buggers it’s moments or opportunities they’ve been robbed of because they followed rules not instinct.
Do you reckon they will further ease lockdown to lessen the blow? I thought they were doing it a week or two early anyway
I think they are under pressure to reopen the economy anyway, but they need something fast to distract us from this story. Just as many people have forgotten Cummings' comments on herd immunity.
I think Adz has no other option than to resign from the forum.
Do people still resign these days?
Yeah, it seems to be to the point where the economy is the big issue. I wonder if by chance that could distract? All this is very surreal
Sometimes the Daily Mail surprises me (like their Justice for Stephen Lawrence campaign).
This will hurt Johnson more than anything else in the national media tomorrow:
Daily Mail 25.5.20.jpg
2 fat hairy bikers telling the world how to diet.
Shoot me now.
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