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  1. #31

    Re: Beatles , years ahead of their time

    Has anyone else see the Beatles live? If not the Bootleg Beatles are a good substitute.

  2. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by elytillidie View Post
    New Peter Jackson film Get Back, due in September. The excellent Let It Be documentary getting re-released too. The new one uses lots of new footage and shows them in a better light than the acrimonious Let It Be one.
    https://ultimateclassicrock.com/beat...et-back-movie/
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    Is there anywhere to see the original - it seems the one Beatles piece that is hard to come by.

  3. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Is there anywhere to see the original - it seems the one Beatles piece that is hard to come by.
    I've had it for years, can't remember where from. It's available from ebay, sure it'd be watchable. Been officially unavailabe for years.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Let-it-be...IAAOSw3iResvkH

  4. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by elytillidie View Post
    I've had it for years, can't remember where from. It's available from ebay, sure it'd be watchable. Been officially unavailabe for years.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Let-it-be...IAAOSw3iResvkH
    Thanks!

  5. #35

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    You can't fault thier ballads ,and they were so well marketed, not a fan of anything McCartney has done post Beatles , I have though enjoyed Lennon's solo stuff

  6. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    You can't fault thier ballads ,and they were so well marketed, not a fan of anything McCartney has done post Beatles , I have though enjoyed Lennon's solo stuff
    Lennon did some great songs post Beatles, but there was a lot of dross too. Lennon used to accuse McCartney of writing "granny-shit", but then he did Imagine

  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Has anyone else see the Beatles live? If not the Bootleg Beatles are a good substitute.
    Seen them a few times. They put on an amazing show.

  8. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    You can't fault thier ballads ,and they were so well marketed, not a fan of anything McCartney has done post Beatles , I have though enjoyed Lennon's solo stuff
    Yes, one of the first things people think of with the Beatles is "well marketed".

  9. #39

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    A day in a time machine would be great.

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  10. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Yes, one of the first things people think of with the Beatles is "well marketed".


    Epstein was a genius - there was no way those boys would have made it big without him

  11. #41

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    This isn't their Stockholm show (one that Lennon scoured the Liverpool shops for a recording of). I'm less of a fan of their early stuff, but it's fascinating to see people reacting to their music - something we don't really get in the studio years other than RS reviews.

    I love the way they do "one more song", the presenter seemed a little put out by that. There could well have been an element of "who do these guys think they are" seeing as it is very early in their career. It's amazing to think that, within 3 years, their music takes a new course from copying the music of the day, to setting the music of the day.

  12. #42

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    I agree that their early stuff wasn't as good. After "Love Me Do" they seemed to go downhill but their later stuff is well ahead of their time.

  13. #43

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    Day tripper is a heavy song

  14. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Day tripper is a heavy song
    What's your thoughts on "I want you (She's so Heavy)" and "Helter Skelter"?

  15. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by kendoddsdadsdogsdead View Post
    ...goes on one verse too many
    What's wrong with that?

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    Re: Beatles , years ahead of their time

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Seen them a few times. They put on an amazing show.
    I'm surprised you can remember, you must be about 80 now

  17. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    What's wrong with that?
    I'd like to know.

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    I'd recommend this book for the musically inclined among us, and those with inquisitive minds..

    The Songwriting Secrets of the Beatles by Dominic Pedler

    01. Tension, Resolution and the Power of V
    02. The Three-Chord Trick and the Blues
    03. The Minor Pop Chords
    04. 'Supercharging' a Song with Secondary Dominants
    05. 'Exotic birds' no and the Great Aeolian Cadence Mvstery
    06. Relative and Parallel Minor Switches
    07. 'Borrowing' ... and the Rise of Rock
    08. The Modal Connection
    09. Descending Bass, Inversions and 'Aug' chords
    10. Middle Eights and Mega Modulations
    11. Diminished: Songwriting Sleight-of-Hand
    12. Tritone Substitution and Other Mystery Chords
    13. The 'A Hard Day's Night' Chord - Rock's Holy Grail
    14. Melody - Intervals, Motifs and Phrasing
    15. Harmonisation in Focus
    16. 'I nicked it!' Derivation, 'Plagiarism' and Pop
    17. And in The End ... Lyrical and Tonal Movement

    Appendices

    1. A Beginner's Guide to Music Theory
    2. Beatles Chords in Practice
    3. All Introduction to Harmonisation
    4. All Introduction to Beatles Song Form
    5. Science, Surprise and the Tingle' Factor
    6. A Summary of Early Beatles Influences

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Songwriting.../dp/0711981671



  19. #49

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    Thanks for that one!

  20. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    What's your thoughts on "I want you (She's so Heavy)" and "Helter Skelter"?
    Helter Skelter is a superb song

  21. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Helter Skelter is a superb song
    McCartney sometimes claims it was the precursor to Heavy Metal - is that a fanciful claim?

  22. #52

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    McCartney sometimes claims it was the precursor to Heavy Metal - is that a fanciful claim?
    It certainly ramped things up and influenced many future rock bands , as did you really got me by the kinks

    But metal in my opinion began with riffs sabbath in 1970

    Led zeppelin , cream , free etc were hard rock and some of led zeps stuff was heavy rock


    But sabbath were the first metal band

  23. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It certainly ramped things up and influenced many future rock bands , as did you really got me by the kinks

    But metal in my opinion began with riffs sabbath in 1970

    Led zeppelin , cream , free etc were hard rock and some of led zeps stuff was heavy rock


    But sabbath were the first metal band
    Yeah, I'd go along with that.

    Seen a video of Ozzy meeting McCartney - really good video.

  24. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Yeah, I'd go along with that.

    Seen a video of Ozzy meeting McCartney - really good video.
    Sabbath were finished by 78 thanks to booze for bill ward and cocaine for ozzy and the other two


    Saw em in 98 at their reunion gig and whilst it was fantastic they should have knocked it on the head , but they became a parody

    McCartney has always said he liked sabbath where as robert plant who has an ego the size of a fridge reckons sabbath copied all their riffs from zep , which was nonsense and the first two zep albums owed their sound to the delta blues

    I dont think anybody can touch the beatles for their influences on modern music though , once they got over the she loves you yeah yeah sound they hit their stride and albums like rubber soul , revolver , the white album and sgt peppers are timeless

  25. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Sabbath were finished by 78 thanks to booze for bill ward and cocaine for ozzy and the other two


    Saw em in 98 at their reunion gig and whilst it was fantastic they should have knocked it on the head , but they became a parody

    McCartney has always said he liked sabbath where as robert plant who has an ego the size of a fridge reckons sabbath copied all their riffs from zep , which was nonsense and the first two zep albums owed their sound to the delta blues

    I dont think anybody can touch the beatles for their influences on modern music though , once they got over the she loves you yeah yeah sound they hit their stride and albums like rubber soul , revolver , the white album and sgt peppers are timeless

  26. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    That was many years ago but you could tell that ozzy had been through the mill with substance abuse

    Sad really but he and his band made some great music and continue to influence metal bands today

    But the beatles ? Well they cannot be praised enough

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