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And this is the genius mastermind who plays 4d chess which us mere mortals can't understand ? God help us all
All of the Tories tweeting support are using the same words, almost like it had been dictated to them perhaps. Remember when we were scared of a communist being in charge ?
On March 27th he got the phone call from his wife who said she was ill. He rushed home to see his wife then later went back to work. Later that day they drove Durham.Originally Posted by Cyclops
So he was in contact with someone with symptoms then went back to work, presumably where he had contact with others.
Dear me .
Great line I just read on the BBC news website: "80% of Boris Johnson's political brain is inside Dominic Cummings' head. How could Boris sack Dom? It'd be like giving himself a lobotomy."
So it looks like if you can spout a load of bollox it's game on.
So when's our next home game?
Cummings and his loony boss have now crapped on the rule book imho.
Jeeze, that pathetic performance from the lad caught in the orchard pinching apples beggars belief.
This must not go away and for the sake of democracy this bloke needs .............................
Keep safe folks.
Folks, I say this in all sincerity and as an important road safety issue. If you’re feeling unwell and your eyesight may be impaired do not drive your vehicle to test your ability to drive. It’s not a wise move.
— John Apter (@PFEW_Chair) May 25, 2020
Another comment ' how can someone so full.of shit go 260 miles without a toilet break'
'Barnard Castle', Brewer's Britain & Ireland 2005:
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If you haven't bothered clicking on this link yet, you should do - he made a point of talking about this article in his press briefing.
I'm really surprised that it hasn't gained wider circulation. there was a time that this kind of blatant attempt at deceiving the public would have been career ending
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...f-virus-threat
This could turn out to be the thing that destroys Cummings.
He may just avoid being sacked for the lockdown breaches if Johnson and Gove calculate that they can't do without him and they have already tied themselves together too tightly - but if he has been lying to the press and public as this suggests - about a relatively small side issue - he could be toast.
Jonathan Aitkin and Jeffrey Archer ended up in sacked and in gaol - not for the original wrongdoing, but for the way they lied and perjured themselves to spin their stories.
634k people signed the change.org petition to get him sacked.
Not sure how if something like that will help, the rich and powerful do as they please don't they.
Yes, you've summed up politics and the UK in one sentence.
Can I ask, was anyone on here won around by Dominic Cummings yesterday or is there anyone who feels the faith they had in him was justified after hearing what he had to say?
The only thing that impressed me was that he had the guts to read us his version of events, all handwritten, and he took questions from all of the press members present and didn't try to dodge any flack.
Overall I thought our so called top reporters were dreadful.
There’s a surprise...,,
Peston asked Boris Johnson the questions he should have asked Cummings.
Not for me. I do think he did what he thought was best for him and his family though.
However, the 'flexible' stay at home guideline related to children that he refers to I don't believe was intended to justify moving a family with suspected symptoms across England. It was related to accepting that there are certain isolation type measures that may be challenging for those with children at home.
I think the whole emphasis and point of the message was to stay at home if at all possible. But it seems he didn't explore any options available for him to do this. I'm sure there must have been options available to somebody of his profile in London if he had genuinely really tried to keep to the stay at home message.
In travelling with suspected symptoms he introduced the, albeit remote, risk of breakdown or accident exposing other to the virus (another reason to avoid it).
I don't know why he returned to work when somebody in his household had symptoms. I'm not really sure why he and his wife visited the hospital when there are so many stories about people not being able to do this (in any case, it highlights why people are asked not to travel to avoid potential spread of the virus into other vulnerable locations, particularly from London at the time). As for the safety test-drive, well what can you really say about that?
All in all, it is precisely to avoid 'ifs, buts and maybes' and personal interpretations that people have been told clearly to stay at home, particularly when exposed to symptoms. I think he just had an easy option not available to many people and rather selfishly took it.
I'm in general agreement with you - I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say I can't argue with your first paragraph, but you do a good job of explaining why, for me, his judgement was faulty in so many ways.
We are into, or very close to, "if, but and maybe's" territory when it comes to interpreting Government guidelines now, the original ones were, presumably, designed to be crystal clear and, as Matt Hancock said in one of the briefings were instructions, not recommendations.
One other thing, I've been listening to 5 Live a lot this morning and there are plenty of people phoning in to defend Dominic Cummings citing how awful the press have been to him. I won't say those defending him are the type who call people they disagree with "snowflakes" as a matter of course, but an awful lot of them seem very sensitive to criticism, as does Mr Cummings it appears given the part "security" played in his decision to drive his family to Durham - it all seems very snowflakish to me
think your right, did you catch the Alistair Campbell "I did lie " call ????? made me chuckle
I took this as a weakness, as if he needed a cleverly worded script to avoid hanging himself. If his story was going to stand up to scrutiny, he wouldn't need to have it all written down.
This "bad eyesight" thing has been miaquoted out of context, on here and by the media, probably deliberately by the oppo leaders and media.
He said he wanted a short drive to check he was safe (this is a bit strange, I admit) - he then went on to say that he HAD BEEN dizzy with blurry eyesight at the height of his illness.
People have joined up the two statements and the myth that he "drove to test his eyesight" was born.
As the timeline posted by MM above reminds me, he also drove his kid and wife to hospital before the Barnard Castle trip - presumably when he had blurry eyes.
Louise Minchin interviewing Michael Howard (another a**ehole) pathetic
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