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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Thank God we will never find out !

    Diane Abbott - How the hell did such a single cellular organism get into politics ?

    I don't think that Boris and Co. have covered themselves in glory but having the 3 stooges at the helm would have been unthinkable.
    I'm not particularly a fan of Diane Abbott, but the criticism she gets is ridiculous.

    Daughter of immigrant parents who were a nurse and a welder, she managed to get into Cambridge and got a degree in History. If she had achieved nothing else in her life that would still have been very impressive given her background and the discrimination she must have received at the time.
    Later she became Britain's first and longest serving black MP, and has been re-elected at 9 general elections, which I think is one more than Nigel Farage has tried and failed to become an MP at.

    She had enough sense (and backbone, moral compass) to vote against the Iraq war when many others went placidly along with it.

    But she once stumbled over a maths question when in a live radio interview, so people think she is stupid and worthless.

    I strongly suspect that she has achieved a lot more in the face of a lot more adversity than you have. So if she is a "single celular organism" then what does that make you?

    I've changed my mind, I am now definitely a fan of Diane Abbott

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    I think this government swept to power on the back of brexit

    They were a bunch of chancers then and they are even worse now

    It's like watching three year olds in nursery learning to fill in colouring books

    They are crass, incompetent, directionless and are starting to try and cover each others backs

    That's always the sign of a sinking ship

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I think this government swept to power on the back of brexit

    They were a bunch of chancers then and they are even worse now

    It's like watching three year olds in nursery learning to fill in colouring books

    They are crass, incompetent, directionless and are starting to try and cover each others backs

    That's always the sign of a sinking ship
    Did they sweep to power due to Corbyn being useless or did they sweep to power because the people who voted for brexit and won still wanted it?.
    Most people who voted labour and lost will just keep on and on boring everyone because they lost the same as the nerdy turds who tried to change brexit after the majority voted for it. Bore off you boring gits i bet youe all the same ones who moan about swearing and standing at football..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Thank God we will never find out !

    Diane Abbott - How the hell did such a single cellular organism get into politics ?

    I don't think that Boris and Co. have covered themselves in glory but having the 3 stooges at the helm would have been unthinkable.
    Well we know what side of the fence you sit , clearly a tory

    You must be if you are saying only that boris and his crew have failed to cover themselves in glory

    Jesus wept they are inept

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Had Labour got in we would have had Corbyn, MacDonald and Abbot. An even more useless bunch.
    It would be impossible to get any worse than this unscrupulous shower of shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    It would be impossible to get any worse than this unscrupulous shower of shit
    That's not true either.

    The point is that we don't know how much worse we could be off with others in charge - but we know exactly how much shit we're in right now with the Govt. that we have.

    That's the important thing we need to focus on. We need to hold the people in charge accountable for the job that they're doing now and not make up false narratives that fit one's argument.

  7. #7

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    The wet politicians and clergymen have much to say
    Defending desires of the sheep they are leading astray

    1967 Roy Harper

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Seriously, this is so lame. A few weeks ago, Priti Patel couldn't even read a number properly. Yesterday Michael Gove lied that he'd driven to test his eyesight for no other reason than because two days ago Dominic Cummings said he did (would you jump off a cliff if Dominic did?).

    I am absolutely no fan of Corbyn and the others; in fact I think the country would be in a far better state than it is had they not been in charge of the Labour party even if they weren't in power. But looking at how far the UK has sunk since 2015, I just can't take anyone seriously who says "but it would have been worse under Labour, eh?"
    Have a you ever heard Diane Abbott interviewed ? I'm merely making the point that her intellect is so low I wouldn't trust her with a paper round let alone running the country.

    I am certainly not an apologist for the Tories. I had been a Labour voter all my life until Jezza took over. Brought up that way, more a socialist than a capitalist but the lines have been blurred ever since Blair came to power. However, the dream ticket of Corbyn and McDonnell made me run for the hills and there was no way I would blindly vote for them.

    As dour as Gordon Brown was, the man was intellectually gifted. And he had the foresight of not agreeing to adopting the euro as our currency. If for instance it had been a choice of him or Boris, you may have had a point about "would it have been worse under Labour?" But Corbyn et al ? Really ?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Have a you ever heard Diane Abbott interviewed ? I'm merely making the point that her intellect is so low I wouldn't trust her with a paper round let alone running the country.

    I am certainly not an apologist for the Tories. I had been a Labour voter all my life until Jezza took over. Brought up that way, more a socialist than a capitalist but the lines have been blurred ever since Blair came to power. However, the dream ticket of Corbyn and McDonnell made me run for the hills and there was no way I would blindly vote for them.

    As dour as Gordon Brown was, the man was intellectually gifted. And he had the foresight of not agreeing to adopting the euro as our currency. If for instance it had been a choice of him or Boris, you may have had a point about "would it have been worse under Labour?" But Corbyn et al ? Really ?!!
    Abbott read history at Cambridge

    Funny how all these Tory apologists were "Labour all their lives"

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    The hounding of Diane Abbott, the country's first ever black female MP, is disgraceful.
    I was watching a clip of her at her first election recently. No wonder Jeremy was sha***ng her. A good looking woman.
    Not sure were it went wrong for Diane. Despite being highly intelligent she came over rambling in interviews. No doubt the press did a hatchet job and people believe something if its reiterated often enough. A decent and principled woman for all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Politicians ? Once in power they're all pretty much the same. Without wanting to open the current can of worms, Government is a tiny cache of inexperienced individuals surrounded by advisors, quangos, Govt. bodies, Civil Service, the Judiciary - all who run rings around them and stifle change, innovation, and decisive actions. Take the dog out for a long walk and forget about them all..
    So you are blaming the civil servants and scientists for this catastrophe? Not the Tory government who make the final decisions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Former Labour leader View Post
    So you are blaming the civil servants and scientists for this catastrophe? Not the Tory government who make the final decisions?
    The catastrophe was probably caused by lax Chinese bio-security. Labour would have been in the same position. Would they have made the same decisions ? Who knows. This Govt. carries the can - that's the responsibility that comes with being in power..

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    The hounding of Diane Abbott, the country's first ever black female MP, is disgraceful.
    Oh really ? So just because she's the first black female MP, she has a free rein to make racist or anti-white comments in public does she ? "White people like to divide and rule" is one of hers and there are many others if you wish to check. There is no excuse for this type of behaviour regardless of colour so I most certainly do not respect her just because of her status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Oh really ? So just because she's the first black female MP, she has a free rein to make racist or anti-white comments in public does she ? "White people like to divide and rule" is one of hers and there are many others if you wish to check. There is no excuse for this type of behaviour regardless of colour so I most certainly do not respect her just because of her status.
    I'm pointing out some relevant facts. She's the country's first female black MP and receives an almost unparalleled level of abuse

    She's referring to the British Empire with "White people like to divide and rule", well she's not wrong is she?

  15. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Oh really ? So just because she's the first black female MP, she has a free rein to make racist or anti-white comments in public does she ? "White people like to divide and rule" is one of hers and there are many others if you wish to check. There is no excuse for this type of behaviour regardless of colour so I most certainly do not respect her just because of her status.
    Never underestimate the sensitivity of a white man. No one in the equivalent position has an easier life than the white man yet they can't stop ****ing whinging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Abbott read history at Cambridge

    Funny how all these Tory apologists were "Labour all their lives"
    You're a funny man😂

  17. #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    I'm pointing out some relevant facts. She's the country's first female black MP and receives an almost unparalleled level of abuse

    She's referring to the British Empire with "White people like to divide and rule", well she's not wrong is she?
    Replace the word white with black, post it and see what happens to you matey !!

  18. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Replace the word white with black, post it and see what happens to you matey !!
    What do you think the UK Government have done well in the Covid 19 crisis?

  19. #19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Replace the word white with black, post it and see what happens to you matey !!
    In my view there's nothing racist in the statement, although it would be pretty historically inaccurate to claim "black people like to divide and rule" when referring to the tactics of the British Empire.

    Why do you feel its racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Replace the word white with black, post it and see what happens to you matey !!
    Yes because white people are so oppressed by racial hate

  21. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    Comparing the Labour party in UK with the Labour party in New Zealand is like comparing Jack the Ripper with a fluffy bunny rabbit
    Chalk and cheese clearly just wouldn’t do this difference justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    What do you think the UK Government have done well in the Covid 19 crisis?
    Absolutely not ! I've already said that Boris and Co. have not covered themselves in glory and I stand by that.

    But the post you've responded to is about whether Ms Abbott should be put on a pedestal just because she is the country's first black female MP. I suggest not, given the overtly racist, anti-white comments she has made in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodybluebird View Post
    Absolutely not ! I've already said that Boris and Co. have not covered themselves in glory and I stand by that.

    But the post you've responded to is about whether Ms Abbott should be put on a pedestal just because she is the country's first black female MP. I suggest not, given the overtly racist, anti-white comments she has made in the past.
    To be honest, I'm not remotely interested in speculating on how Messrs Corbyn and McDonald and Dianne Abbott would have done, they're all backbenchers now I believe and so what's the point? We have a Government that has overseen a situation where, no matter what stats you look at, the UK compares poorly with the rest of the world and now they've managed to create a situation whereby they are struggling to keep the country on board with their guidelines with many believing they are putting party and personal matters above people's wellbeing.

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    Personally I am up to here with the politics of the way this crisis hay been handled.

    People have died and are still dying because the bunch of people who are supposed to be running the country are out of their depth and don’t know what do next.

    I think TOBW above hit the nail. Let the people of the UK get on with doing things the way they want and accept the consequences that arise.

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    I never understand people calling Diane Abbot stupid, how many posters on here got into Cambridge?

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