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Thread: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

  1. #1

    Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Let’s have a guess, what will Drakeford and co give us?

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Let’s have a guess, what will Drakeford and co give us?
    Very little I suspect. Wales playing the 'only adult in the playground' role..

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Hopefully, house sales to resume. Exercise as much as you like. Go to the beach. Climb a mountain or two. Back to work, with restrictions.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    Hopefully, house sales to resume. Exercise as much as you like. Go to the beach. Climb a mountain or two. Back to work, with restrictions.
    That will do me. Need to sell my house ASAP.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Let’s have a guess, what will Drakeford and co give us?
    I’m really hoping Drakeford & co see sense and allow us all to recommence our naked games of a Twister. I’m missing the neighbours.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    Hopefully, house sales to resume. Exercise as much as you like. Go to the beach. Climb a mountain or two. Back to work, with restrictions.
    I think that sounds most likely. I am also interested in what advice they give the vulnerable who have been locked down for 12 weeks.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    Hopefully, house sales to resume. Exercise as much as you like. Go to the beach. Climb a mountain or two. Back to work, with restrictions.
    Sounds good but sounds way to positive for Wales.....

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    I think that sounds most likely. I am also interested in what advice they give the vulnerable who have been locked down for 12 weeks.
    See you in 12 months is the advice there

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    I think that sounds most likely. I am also interested in what advice they give the vulnerable who have been locked down for 12 weeks.
    I'm terrible at maths (yep, even basic maths) so please correct me if I'm wrong... But hasn't it only been 9 weeks so far? If it has, then I imagine the advice would be to shield for another 3 weeks until the initial guidance has been met. Seems the most common sense approach to me.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    I'm terrible at maths (yep, even basic maths) so please correct me if I'm wrong... But hasn't it only been 9 weeks so far? If it has, then I imagine the advice would be to shield for another 3 weeks until the initial guidance has been met. Seems the most common sense approach to me.
    Quite a few oldies I know, parents in law etc...started before the schools broke up as they were concerned. 11 weeks it will be for them this weekend, they started 15 March. I can’t believe you are terrible at something mind....

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Quite a few oldies I know, parents in law etc...started before the schools broke up as they were concerned. 11 weeks it will be for them this weekend, they started 15 March. I can’t believe you are terrible at something mind....
    They voluntarily decided to shield then. They clearly did the right thing.

    Your mate Boris and his chums have said this though: "the Government is currently advising people to shield until 30 June 2020 and is regularly monitoring this position."

    That still stands according to .Gov

    The Welsh guidance states "people who have a serious underlying health condition to stay at home until at least 15 June 2020"

    Any remarks about that, goats?

    Doesn't quite fit your agenda does it

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Let’s have a guess, what will Drakeford and co give us?
    No lockdown existed in the area of Barry that I live in, everything has carried on as normal. Many people gathered in gardens, not from the same house, a few parties have been thrown. My wife and I have stuck to it and ain't seen the grandkids in ten weeks. Even if one of you have flouted the law that led to someone's demise I hope you feel very happy with yourself.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    See you in 12 months is the advice there
    I haven't seen that advice published anywhere, have you?

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    I'm terrible at maths (yep, even basic maths) so please correct me if I'm wrong... But hasn't it only been 9 weeks so far? If it has, then I imagine the advice would be to shield for another 3 weeks until the initial guidance has been met. Seems the most common sense approach to me.
    Yes, that seems about right actually. I think this is our 10th week of lockdown (so last batch of 3 weeks). I'm just wondering if we will get an indication of what happens beyond that - or if there is any data that suggests vulnerable people should extend their actions beyond these last 3 weeks.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    They voluntarily decided to shield then. They clearly did the right thing.

    Your mate Boris and his chums have said this though: "the Government is currently advising people to shield until 30 June 2020 and is regularly monitoring this position."

    That still stands according to .Gov

    The Welsh guidance states "people who have a serious underlying health condition to stay at home until at least 15 June 2020"

    Any remarks about that, goats?

    Doesn't quite fit your agenda does it
    I think they will have to shield until either the virus disappears or a vaccine is found. Prob the latter, so no going out for a year maybe.
    Not sure what my agenda is with regard to that? My mum is 87 in assisted living complex and father in law in 72 with COPD. Both high risk.
    Don’t want to piss on your chips but I’ve never voted Tory in my life, I swing down the middle and always have. Didn’t even vote last time I loath politics as you can probably tell. All the lefties I know tend to be the still living at home with mummy types mid 40’s, no kids, never had a proper job, have no time for their opinions to be honest. And the Tories I know just tend to be selfish twaaaaats. Which one are you?

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Yes, that seems about right actually. I think this is our 10th week of lockdown (so last batch of 3 weeks). I'm just wondering if we will get an indication of what happens beyond that - or if there is any data that suggests vulnerable people should extend their actions beyond these last 3 weeks.
    The 12 week isolation letters sent to the vulnerable were dated 23 March, which takes us up to 15 June. I'm in no rush myself to join the masses after this date, so will continue as I have done since the start ( I started myself a week before on 16 March). Whether any separate guidance will be issued we'll have to wait and see.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    I think they will have to shield until either the virus disappears or a vaccine is found. Prob the latter, so no going out for a year maybe.
    Not sure what my agenda is with regard to that? My mum is 87 in assisted living complex and father in law in 72 with COPD. Both high risk.
    Don’t want to piss on your chips but I’ve never voted Tory in my life, I swing down the middle and always have. Didn’t even vote last time I loath politics as you can probably tell. All the lefties I know tend to be the still living at home with mummy types mid 40’s, no kids, never had a proper job, have no time for their opinions to be honest. And the Tories I know just tend to be selfish twaaaaats. Which one are you?
    Your continued bashing of the Welsh Govt. for everything that you perceive they are doing worse than the UK Govt. even though you can't back it up - that agenda.

    I must be a Tory if that's the only criteria you're posing

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    The 12 week isolation letters sent to the vulnerable were dated 23 March, which takes us up to 15 June. I'm in no rush myself to join the masses after this date, so will continue as I have done since the start ( I started myself a week before on 16 March). Whether any separate guidance will be issued we'll have to wait and see.
    We are being shielded.

    Speaking to my wife's carers the vibes they are getting from the care agency is that shielding will go on after June 15th.

    Don't know whether this is just conjecture on their part or whether they have actually heard anything.

    Wouldn't be at all surprised though.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Didn’t even vote last time
    To be honest, and this is just my opinion, if you don't vote you shouldn't get to preach about politics

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fine Lines View Post
    That will do me. Need to sell my house ASAP.
    Ditto but it's my dad's house.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Malckent View Post
    No lockdown existed in the area of Barry that I live in, everything has carried on as normal. Many people gathered in gardens, not from the same house, a few parties have been thrown. My wife and I have stuck to it and ain't seen the grandkids in ten weeks. Even if one of you have flouted the law that led to someone's demise I hope you feel very happy with yourself.
    Yes my two kids haven’t really seen there grandparents in 10 weeks either......not nice for either

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    To be honest, and this is just my opinion, if you don't vote you shouldn't get to preach about politics
    I agree and I tend not to get involved in it. It seems to bring the worst out of people and turns what is a decent mate into a cnut when he starts blabbering about politics....can’t be much more off putting in a person. Political opinion is a Bit like a haemorrhoid, we all have them but we don’t need to talk about them.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Your continued bashing of the Welsh Govt. for everything that you perceive they are doing worse than the UK Govt. even though you can't back it up - that agenda.

    I must be a Tory if that's the only criteria you're posing
    You probably are, they are usually smug gits.....
    Are you talking about how abysmal the testing has been here? Doesn’t wales also have one of the worst % per pop of deaths? Drakefords done well your right

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    You probably are, they are usually smug gits.....
    Are you talking about how abysmal the testing has been here? Doesn’t wales also have one of the worst % per pop of deaths? Drakefords done well your right
    Find one quote of me saying Drakeford has done well and I will register to join the Tory party and post the proof on here

    It's the fact that you've been criticising them for shit you clearly don't understand - like the shielding and what's happening with schools. Your argument is that schools need to open soon because your child needs to be back in education - that's just part of the issue. The fact that you were adamant that children can't even get Covid-19 hopefully explains why you were so upset at them not being open already.

    I don't know if Wales has one of the worst percentage of deaths per capita, goats. I wouldn't have thought that they did but I'm terrible at maths, remember. If you have that evidence somewhere, please feel free to share it so I can be critical of how Drakeford's been managing that aspect of the situation to add to how shit the testing in Wales has been (which it has).

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Find one quote of me saying Drakeford has done well and I will register to join the Tory party and post the proof on here

    It's the fact that you've been criticising them for shit you clearly don't understand - like the shielding and what's happening with schools. Your argument is that schools need to open soon because your child needs to be back in education - that's just part of the issue. The fact that you were adamant that children can't even get Covid-19 hopefully explains why you were so upset at them not being open already.

    I don't know if Wales has one of the worst percentage of deaths per capita, goats. I wouldn't have thought that they did but I'm terrible at maths, remember. If you have that evidence somewhere, please feel free to share it so I can be critical of how Drakeford's been managing that aspect of the situation to add to how shit the testing in Wales has been (which it has).
    It’s out there, you do the research and brush up on your maths whilst at it. The weather is too nice to waste on this nonsense.
    Kids have been proven to have a very low chance of getting it as you well know, only 3 under 15’s have even died from it. 50 die in road traffic accidents in a similar time period so shall we not drive anywhere also? Life is full of risks. My kids won’t be going back until September when the school is ready, that does rely on cardiff city council and your buddy doing actual work so you never know might not happen. I love having my kids home, it’s the best time but I know kids need social interaction. I trust you have no kids?

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    It’s out there, you do the research and brush up on your maths whilst at it. The weather is too nice to waste on this nonsense.
    Kids have been proven to have a very low chance of getting it as you well know, only 3 under 15’s have even died from it. 50 die in road traffic accidents in a similar time period so shall we not drive anywhere also? Life is full of risks. My kids won’t be going back until September when the school is ready, that does rely on cardiff city council and your buddy doing actual work so you never know might not happen. I love having my kids home, it’s the best time but I know kids need social interaction. I trust you have no kids?
    You brought it up, I assumed you could back it up with evidence. You've wasted enough time on here chatting shit, I don't see how posting a link would take much more time.

    You "trust" wrong, as usual I've got a 4 year old girl who is meant to be starting school in September. This is a crucial time for her to pick up things in nursery (especially that social interaction thing that you mentioned) before heading to a more educationally-focussed setting... so I'm obviously anxious and worried about her education, just like every other parent is at this time.

    The key thing that I've considered it that all of the kids her age will be in the same boat as each other. Rushing them back before the correct precautions are in place would be dangerous for them and the staff.

    Slagging off Welsh Govt. and Cardiff Council for wanting to make sure it's safe and practical for them to return makes no sense to me. But it's up to you how you perceive it.

    "Kids have been proven to have a very low chance of getting it as you well know, only 3 under 15’s have even died from it". They have a low mortality rate, yes... But we don't fully know how many kids have had Covid and the impact that it's had. Bit rich of you to tell me what I know... but I'm just glad you can now admit that kids can get Covid instead of categorically stating that they can't.

    We can continue this petty disagreement if you want to keep pretending that you've got me sussed about my politics and about my views on Mark Drakeford (whom I've criticised several times... Including in this thread) and I'll keep coming back at you in kind... Or we can leave it here like adults?

    I'm half responsible for the pettiness between us and I can be very petty on here... But I can also put the spats behind me (if your name isn't Wales Bales).

    It's up to you what you want to do.

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    only 3 under 15’s have even died from it.
    Only hey?

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    It’s out there, you do the research and brush up on your maths whilst at it. The weather is too nice to waste on this nonsense.
    Kids have been proven to have a very low chance of getting it as you well know, only 3 under 15’s have even died from it. 50 die in road traffic accidents in a similar time period so shall we not drive anywhere also? Life is full of risks. My kids won’t be going back until September when the school is ready, that does rely on cardiff city council and your buddy doing actual work so you never know might not happen. I love having my kids home, it’s the best time but I know kids need social interaction. I trust you have no kids?
    my oldest can go back to school on monday, she is in year 12, they are splitting the year into 2 groups, 1 group monday and tuesday , wednesday to deep clean the school and then group 2 thursday and friday

    we are still discussing it at the mo

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Only hey?
    Yes unfortunately people, even kids, have been known to die in this world before covid19. Shocking I know. Pull down the shutters hey and see you in five years

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    Re: Easing of restrictions tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    Yes unfortunately people, even kids, have been known to die in this world before covid19. Shocking I know. Pull down the shutters hey and see you in five years
    A great way to divert from the description of 3 under 15s dying as "only". I guess you knew none of these kids so they are but mere numbers to score political points for you.

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