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Thread: Justice for George Floyd petition

  1. #331

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    None of which should mean he shouldnít be on TV?? Jamie Carragher spat at a kid. He was on the show.

    Evra was the victim in the Suarez incident and clearly doesnít stand for any nonsense.

    You are Wales Bales and I claim my £5
    He was accused of leading a mutiny butt.

    He was deemed to be the victim in the Suarez case by the English, but I remember the things he apparently said about Senegalese people in justifying playing for France over them, i would not be so sure Evra was the victim, what he apparently said to Kuyt was bad, what he said to Suarez was disgusting , what he apparently said about why the ref booked him was terrible, he is a beaut that bloke and I would not be so sure he is the 'victim' in the Suarez case.
    I have Evra marked down as a very very dangerous guy, best not to get involved with him in any way.

  2. #332

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    He was accused of leading a mutiny butt.

    He was deemed to be the victim in the Suarez case by the English, but I remember the things he apparently said about Senegalese people in justifying playing for France over them, i would not be so sure Evra was the victim, what he apparently said to Kuyt was bad, what he said to Suarez was disgusting , what he apparently said about why the ref booked him was terrible, he is a beaut that bloke and I would not be so sure he is the 'victim' in the Suarez case.
    I have Evra marked down as a very very dangerous guy, best not to get involved with him in any way.
    Jesus Christ... I've got Liverpool-supporting friends and family who have defended Suarez less than you just have.

  3. #333

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    I've avoided this thread because I find the whole subject depressing, but Chris Sutton, of all people, just said something on 5 Live which set me thinking and made me realise my attitude was selfish and wrong. Sutton talked of how difficult it was to talk about what is happening in America to his eight year old daughter because she had no understanding of the concept of people hating others because of the colour of their skin.

    Perhaps I'm naive, but I've always believed that no one comes into this world as a ready made racist. Racists are made for all sorts of reasons, for example, spending their formative years with adult racists, indoctrination, be it voluntary or forced, or even as a counter reaction to what they regard as racist behaviour themselves -somewhere along the line, the idealism of youth gives way to cynicism and hatred.

    What happened to George Floyd is just wrong, completely and utterly wrong, and I trust and hope that anyone in this thread who is critical of some of the things that have arisen from his death accept that. This single fact should be the beginning and end of any discussion about the consequences arising from what happened to him - an eight year old can see that, but some humans three, four, five, six etc times older than that have such trouble understanding that it seems and, even amongst those that do, there is still a desire to try and move the argument on to something else which only adds to the problem.

    This should be something which unites all humans apart from a tiny sick and criminal minority - the fact that it doesn't only emphasises the size of the mess this world is in even without the virus.

  4. #334

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    The tactics used by American police are common throughout the world , are they not the same tactics were used by French police against the yellow jacketse most weekend for a year however the lack of fury was less as it was with Hong Kong . I hope TDS is not creeping in
    So three different expressions of public anger. In each instance I understand from what you say the police tactics and response is the common. In two of those cases you sided with the protesters and in this instance you have come down against the protesters but they couldn't be more different apparently. Who said satire is dead!

  5. #335

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Jesus Christ... I've got Liverpool-supporting friends and family who have defended Suarez less than you just have.
    I'm sorry you have family and friends that support an English team, is it some form of Stockholm syndrome with them ?

  6. #336

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So three different expressions of public anger. In each instance I understand from what you say the police tactics and response is the common. In two of those cases you sided with the protesters and in this instance you have come down against the protesters but they couldn't be more different apparently. Who said satire is dead!

  7. #337

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    I'm sorry you have family and friends that support that an English team, is it some form of Stockholm syndrome with them ?
    They've never been to Sweden as far as I'm aware.

  8. #338

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52885964
    George Floyd died of asphyxia, private autopsy finds
    George Floyd, the African-American man whose death has sparked civil unrest in the US, died from asphyxia (lack of oxygen), a private autopsy has found.

    He died due to compression on his neck and back by Minneapolis police officers, medical examiners hired by his family said.

    The findings differ from an official preliminary autopsy carried out by the county medical examiner.

    That autopsy did not find evidence of "traumatic asphyxia or strangulation".

    "The cause of death in my opinion is asphyxia, due to compression to the neck - which can interfere with oxygen going to the brain - and compression to the back, which interferes with breathing," said Michael Baden, a former New York City medical examiner who was hired by Mr Floyd's family.

  9. #339

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    Wow must have had the work experience boy doing the first one. Mad how all the conspiracy theorists jumped on that being true rather than question it with their free thinking 🤔

    Donít believe everything you read sheeple unless it backs up white supremacy and a **** president you want to rim.

    Quick some disingenuous racist embed a YouTube video for no one to watch.

  10. #340

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    He was accused of leading a mutiny butt.

    He was deemed to be the victim in the Suarez case by the English, but I remember the things he apparently said about Senegalese people in justifying playing for France over them, i would not be so sure Evra was the victim, what he apparently said to Kuyt was bad, what he said to Suarez was disgusting , what he apparently said about why the ref booked him was terrible, he is a beaut that bloke and I would not be so sure he is the 'victim' in the Suarez case.
    I have Evra marked down as a very very dangerous guy, best not to get involved with him in any way.
    You remember things he apparently said?!?!?

    How the **** does that work? He either said them or he didnít.

    Iíve just read a little of the guys background and I have nothing but admiration for the guy. Itís not difficult to see why he lashes out at racism and what he perceives as injustice. The authorities and racists and I include you in the latter clearly donít like black people behaving like he does. He should know his place.

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    JTTF federal agents take down another Antifa communist agitator and he will be singing like a bird this evening..

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    He was accused of leading a mutiny butt.

    He was deemed to be the victim in the Suarez case by the English, but I remember the things he apparently said about Senegalese people in justifying playing for France over them, i would not be so sure Evra was the victim, what he apparently said to Kuyt was bad, what he said to Suarez was disgusting , what he apparently said about why the ref booked him was terrible, he is a beaut that bloke and I would not be so sure he is the 'victim' in the Suarez case.
    I have Evra marked down as a very very dangerous guy, best not to get involved with him in any way.
    Why don't you just tell us what he said. You seem to know or you wouldn't know how bad they were? I'd be interested to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Wow must have had the work experience boy doing the first one. Mad how all the conspiracy theorists jumped on that being true rather than question it with their free thinking ��

    Don’t believe everything you read sheeple unless it backs up white supremacy and a **** president you want to rim.

    Quick some disingenuous racist embed a YouTube video for no one to watch.
    I could go with asphyxia as COD given the suspicious circumstances that looked like it may have been premeditated. The Minneapolis Attorney General will be personally handling the prosecution, so I am sure he won't be allowing any cover-ups to take place given his strong Democratic Party credentials.

  14. #344

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So three different expressions of public anger. In each instance I understand from what you say the police tactics and response is the common. In two of those cases you sided with the protesters and in this instance you have come down against the protesters but they couldn't be more different apparently. Who said satire is dead!

  15. #345

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    You remember things he apparently said?!?!?

    How the **** does that work? He either said them or he didnít.

    Iíve just read a little of the guys background and I have nothing but admiration for the guy. Itís not difficult to see why he lashes out at racism and what he perceives as injustice. The authorities and racists and I include you in the latter clearly donít like black people behaving like he does. He should know his place.
    What Evra has said in the past is well documented.

    As regards me i think all peoples are equal.

  16. #346

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Why don't you just tell us what he said. You seem to know or you wouldn't know how bad they were? I'd be interested to know.
    "Your sisters pussy" in Spanish from the so called victim to the South American.

  17. #347

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    Floyd's brother rebukes people 'messing up my community'

    Terrence Floyd, the brother of George Floyd, the Minneapolis black man who died after a police officer knelt on his neck, rebukes protest troublemakers for "messing up my community".

    1h ago

    At last voice of reason , but man after such a personal tragedy

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    "Your sisters pussy" in Spanish from the so called victim to the South American.
    Was it a special breed or a felis silvestris catus?

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    Wow, a 7pm curfew with the military on the streets in Washington DC, and elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Wow, a 7pm curfew with the military on the streets in Washington DC, and elsewhere.
    Putin will be pleased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    Putin will be pleased.
    I'm sure the people who have had to endure the destruction of their cities will be pleased too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Wow, a 7pm curfew with the military on the streets in Washington DC, and elsewhere.
    I saw a message from a disney cast member i know, 7pm curfew in Florida

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    I saw a message from a disney cast member i know, 7pm curfew in Florida
    Here are some live news streams https://watchnewslive.tv/category/news/

  24. #354

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I'm sure the people who have had to endure the destruction of their cities will be pleased too..
    Think of the insurance claims.

  25. #355

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    What happened to George floyd is beyond wrong, utterly disgraceful. But it makes me absolutely sick to see all these idiots out protesting, stood right next to each other in huge groups.
    That's another big spread guaranteed, lots of old and disabled people will die as a result of that spread of disease. Seems like that's ok though, racism is bad, but consigning the elderly and sick to an early grave is absolutely fine. These filth are no better than the white libertarian type loons who were out protesting last week.

  26. #356

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
    What happened to George floyd is beyond wrong, utterly disgraceful. But it makes me absolutely sick to see all these idiots out protesting, stood right next to each other in huge groups.
    That's another big spread guaranteed, lots of old and disabled people will die as a result of that spread of disease. Seems like that's ok though, racism is bad, but consigning the elderly and sick to an early grave is absolutely fine. These filth are no better than the white libertarian type loons who were out protesting last week.
    I know where you're coming from and it is short sighted. But how black people have been treated in that country their whole lives has been disgusting, you can't blame them for reacting to this.

    Bit ridiculous to compare them to white libertarian types when one group was out protesting for hair cuts while the other are out protesting for equal rights.

  27. #357

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    The president saying he'll defend peaceful protests literally at the same time he has Federal police baton charge and tear gas a peaceful protest just so he could have a hideously awkward photo-op holding a bible like an idiot is the most Trump-ish thing ever.

  28. #358

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    JTTF federal agents take down another Antifa communist agitator and he will be singing like a bird this evening..
    Inspiring stuff - pity there aren't more examples of this.

    P.S. did I see robocop appear at the end of the clip - who the heck was that!!!

  29. #359

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    Putin will be pleased.
    And Drakeford..

  30. #360

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
    What happened to George floyd is beyond wrong, utterly disgraceful. But it makes me absolutely sick to see all these idiots out protesting, stood right next to each other in huge groups.
    That's another big spread guaranteed, lots of old and disabled people will die as a result of that spread of disease. Seems like that's ok though, racism is bad, but consigning the elderly and sick to an early grave is absolutely fine. These filth are no better than the white libertarian type loons who were out protesting last week.
    I take issue with your last sentence. The "white libertarian type loons" were protesting about not being able to go to bars or get their hair cut etc because of the pandemic that is killing the people you speak of. They were blatantly disregarding the fact that lockdown was protecting people from dying and didn't care. Most of them think Covid is a hoax anyway.

    The protestors on the streets today are protesting the murder of another black man by the police in America.

    Surely you see the difference, even if you don't agree with them protesting during Covid?

    I don't think the protests would have had much of an impact in a year's time either.

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