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[Croesy Blue]

Not necessarily.

I think a good family and upbringing is more important in determining such factors as opposed to skin color.

Lots of African Americans do though, people cannot keep lumping them in as a collective with one voice, taste or set of values..they are individuals!!!

I’m sorry but it’s pissed me off how wrong and ignorant this is. It is absolute bull shit.

[Wash DC Blue]

What does he say about race that you agree with him on?

The restraint shown by the guy in the video is something I don't think I'd have - but I guess I'm statistically less likely to get shot if I reacted. Absolutely infuriating behaviour by the sheriff.

Shocking!!

[Wash DC Blue]

What does he say about race that you agree with him on?

I’m sorry but it’s pissed me off how wrong and ignorant this is. It is absolute bull shit.

Please explain which part and why?

[Croesy Blue]

That you think a good upbringing is more important factor than skin colour.

It’s proven bullshit. There are hundreds of thousands of examples and statistics that prove that’s bullshit.

There is no escaping the prejudices that come with being black, no matter your upbringing or how educated you are. I honestly can’t believe you’ve said that to a black person is without them calling it out.

[Wash DC Blue]

What does he say about race that you agree with him on?

That you think a good upbringing is more important factor than skin colour.

It’s proven bullshit. There are hundreds of thousands of examples and statistics that prove that’s bullshit.

There is no escaping the prejudices that come with being black, no matter your upbringing or how educated you are. I honestly can’t believe you’ve said that to a black person is without them calling it out.

I have already stated numerous times how unjust society can be in the US.
I have not denied for one moment the prejudice here.

However, the question was about ability to excel in modern society.

If you don’t think that African Americans can excel in modern society as much as I have or indeed any average white guy...maybe you are harbouring sub conscious racism.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I have already stated numerous times how unjust society can be in the US.
I have not denied for one moment the prejudice here.

However, the question was about ability to excel in modern society.

If you don’t think that African Americans can excel in modern society as much as I have or indeed any average white guy...maybe you are harbouring sub conscious racism.

You accept that prejudice in education , healthcare , housing and employment is there

You dont agree with positive discrimination in housing and work programmes

Yet you think african american people in america have the same chance of getting on in american society as the average white guy ?

Well the statistics do not agree with you , the situation in this country is far from perfect but if you are suggesting anyone can succeed in america then we are going to have to disagree

[William Treseder]

If I’m honest between “learning a lot more” from a conservative author on Fox News and using the death of lee rigby to try and point score over the protests, it sums up either how biased or ignorant you are. It’s not worth discussing it with you because you won’t even bother to see where you’re wrong.

Can i start by asking who the **** do you think you are.? You are some 2 bit contributor on a football message board, who comes across as a complete asshole, who thinks he’s here to educate everyone who has a different outlook or opinion
Ive been a part of this whole thread, and feel very comfortable in my views and opinions, as i am not racist and never have been.

[adz-a32]

Can i start by asking who the **** do you think you are.? You are some 2 bit contributor on a football message board, who comes across as a complete asshole, who thinks he’s here to educate everyone who has a different outlook or opinion
Ive been a part of this whole thread, and feel very comfortable in my views and opinions, as i am not racist and never have been.

Jeez

Tbh it is essential to know about racism as it is a big issue. Your privilege is talking when you call someone who tries to educate you on it an “asshole”

[William Treseder]

What did you get from it, if you don't mind me asking?

For what its worth i agreed with some of his views, such as opportunities are there now for everyone of any skin colour to progress, his concerns with the break down of the traditional family fabric, and the observation that many blacks are Still playing the victim card. I didn't agree with his views on “White guilt”
Any white person who isn't racist, has absolutely nothing to feel guilty about.

[William Treseder]

Jeez

Tbh it is essential to know about racism as it is a big issue. Your privilege is talking when you call someone who tries to educate you on it an “asshole”

The last people i need to educate me, is you and Croesy. God help us if its down to you 2 to do it,

[Wash DC Blue]

You dont agree with positive discrimination in housing and work programmes

I don’t remember typing anything to do with affirmative action?
Merely that personal responsibility is more empowering.

[William Treseder]

Racism should not even be a debate

Neither should children starving to death in Africa, neither should the use of food banks over here, neither should human trafficking by East Europeans Etc etc.

[Croesy Blue]

Can i start by asking who the **** do you think you are.? You are some 2 bit contributor on a football message board, who comes across as a complete asshole, who thinks he’s here to educate everyone who has a different outlook or opinion
Ive been a part of this whole thread, and feel very comfortable in my views and opinions, as i am not racist and never have been.

I didn’t call you a racist. I said you learned from that because it backs up your biases. Don’t worry we all do it.

[Croesy Blue]

Neither should children starving to death in Africa, neither should the use of food banks over here, neither should human trafficking by East Europeans Etc etc.

Everyone agrees that

[William Treseder]

Everyone agrees that

Correct. But its like pissing into the wind trying to eradicate it.

[Heisenberg]

Correct. But its like pissing into the wind trying to eradicate it.

You must have missed it amongst all of the other posts that flooded the thread at the time, but I asked what you "took" from the video you watched.

Would you be happy to answer the question? No worries if not.

[adz-a32]

The last people i need to educate me, is you and Croesy. God help us if its down to you 2 to do it,

[William Treseder]

I didn’t call you a racist. I said you learned from that because it backs up your biases. Don’t worry we all do it.

You said i was ignorant and wrong. I didn't “learn”anything from your video, or WB’s. I just agreed with some points in one of them.
Simple as that. There is no right or wrong. You have an opinion. Mine differs to yours.

[William Treseder]

You must have missed it amongst all of the other posts that flooded the thread at the time, but I asked what you "took" from the video you watched.

Would you be happy to answer the question? No worries if not.

I answered you further up. You must have missed it with all the other posts flooding in.

[Heisenberg]

I answered you further up. You must have missed it with all the other posts flooding in.

Apologies for missing it. I was being genuine about thinking you'd missed it too btw. There was about 10 messages every few minutes at the time

If that's what he said, then he does have some valid points which I wouldn't argue with.

One of the things you said I can definitely side with... I certainly don't feel any guilt as a white person.

I don't feel any pride or any other emotions about my skin colour, to be honest.

[William Treseder]

Apologies for missing it. I was being genuine about thinking you'd missed it too btw. There was about 10 messages every few minutes at the time

If that's what he said, then he does have some valid points which I wouldn't argue with.

One of the things you said I can definitely side with... I certainly don't feel any guilt as a white person.

I don't feel any pride or any other emotions about my skin colour, to be honest.

To be honest, Racism, Paedophilia and bullying are probably the 3 things in life that sicken me the most.

[blue matt]

To be honest, Racism, Paedophilia and bullying are probably the 3 things in life that sicken me the most.

you are another Croesy multi and i claim my £5

[William Treseder]

you are another Croesy multi and i claim my £5

You're tripping 😁

[blue matt]

You're tripping ��

[Croesy Blue]

you are another Croesy multi and i claim my £5

You couldn't be more wrong, I'm all about peadophilia!