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There you go again.
My first post in this thread, was basically saying, that all lives, no matter what colour or creed matter.
I also wanted to get across the point, that its not just racist American cops that need to appreciate that, its people of all colour and creed that think life is cheap.
No point in trying to eradicate what happened to George Floyd then black youths killing black youths because of different rag colours and different gang memberships, or white people killing white people because of religious beliefs, or anyone killing anyone etc etc..
Im not trying to get into a battle with you, because we hopefully we both want the same thing.
The big difference here, is opinions on sport, are 2 a penny, and throw away. Im not very keen on Basketball myself or cricket come to that, so my opinions on them would de biased
Opinions on life matters though are more important, and any right minded person wouldn't hesitate to agree that all lives are important and racism is wrong. There is no grey area there.
Racism against black people is no different to racism against white people or any other people for that matter.
All lives matter is the words of someone who’s missed the point. It’s usually used by racists to undermine the movement too.
BLM is valid because at the moment white lives matter but black lives don’t. That’s why the movement is so needed.
Saying all lives matter paints the person at the very best as ignorant. There are plenty of places you can google that explain this a lot better than I can.
Before charging into a subject with your opinion why not try and understand everything first?
This isn’t a particular feature of what’s going on currently, I think people are generally more inclined to join protests targeted at power/authority.
For example, would you conclude I don’t really think that domestic violence matters as I haven’t marched about it? And would I be required to do so before protesting if I felt the police had started targeting females for violent treatment?
Rioting takes precedence over Covid-19
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...rises-separate
They should probably call it Black Lives Matter Too.
It'd cause less confusion.
https://www.insider.com/billie-eilis...e-floyd-2020-6
I think Billie Eilish addressed all lives matter better than I could.
Maybe you pair aren’t aware “all lives matter” was set up in response to black lives matter.
Black people aren’t saying your lives don’t matter.
KEEP POSTING HIS NAME! #DavidDornslifemattered TOO
— Terrence K. Williams (@w_terrence) June 3, 2020
People posted black boxes all today for #blackoutuesday
But they refused to post about a 77 year old black man who was shot & killed and left for dead on a sidewalk#DavidDorn#JusticeForDavidDorn
pic.twitter.com/MWVDWRysTX
I get that that message was mostly against Hartley, but I still think its utterly brainless. To say that using covid is just a way of attacking the protesters is utterly moronic. Covid is still in the process of rampaging through out societies, killing people in their thousands. We buried my grandad because of it, and we haven't seen my sister in 2 months because her care home is locked down. Other families have suffered a hell of a lot more. if pieces of shit decide that they can break social distancing like this and put more lives at risk , I will reserve the right to call them out for the vermin that they are . I find the idea that I'm just using this to have a pop at the protests repulsive.
No I agree with you that it isn’t the best time to be having the protests and I couldn’t attend a family members funeral who died of covid too so you have my sympathy.
But can you also see that when someone has been killed due to a policeman Kneeling on his neck the action has to be taken while the iron is hot. It’s a very important movement and it’s difficult to say, let’s pencil this in for once the virus has subsided a bit more.
I do think calling the protestors pieces of shit and vermin is the wrong way to go about it though and makes you lose the moral high ground.
I’ve always been very pro lockdown, but we have to appreciate that the world and it’s situations are nuanced and things aren’t always black and white.
1) Are queer people more likely to be stopped and killed by the police?
2) There are some black queer people
3) The Stonewall riots, which were a turning point in queer rights, was started by a black transgender woman.
I do understand how life is hard for queer people, especially transgender people, but the debate is about black lives and the communities intersect.
And it is stupid how you compare the struggles of African Americans to ugly people
Just found out that George Floyd was originally stopped by the police because he handed over a counterfeit note in a shop. I did that once! They handed me back the note as a souvenir, and later I told the story on stage in a comedy routine. That’s some privilege right there.
— Dara Ó Briain (@daraobriain) June 3, 2020
To be honest what I'm finding very strange is that normally I'd be in agreement But the covid situation is literally a once in a lifetime (hopefully) situation that needs us to keep away from each other.
I was quite surprised how angry that video made me feel. To see the policeman closest to the camera squaring up to people, as his mate smirks while he quite literally squashes the life out of someone is beyond words. Also cant disagree with the structural inequality present in the states. The real irony though, is that the coronavirus is even better at exploiting the system to kill black people than a bent copper. death by Covid induced pneumonia is probably quite a similar way to go , the breathlessness, the hopelessness.
Also lets be fair, it's not hard to get yourself a ****ing mask before going out in a big group of people.