Reply With QuoteIt is a sticky one tbh. But action can be done, via virtual protests, writing to your local MP, signing petitions and keeping informed of the dynamics of the world and the context behind said dynamicsOriginally Posted by blue matt
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I copper working with south wales police once said that to me as if it was a defence and of course it wouldnt happen today
If you want to believe that then feel free
It is a sticky one tbh. But action can be done, via virtual protests, writing to your local MP, signing petitions and keeping informed of the dynamics of the world and the context behind said dynamics
In Cardiff they may have observed social distance as numbers were controllable. In Manchester, where the rate of infection is already well above 1, and London it was mayhem.
1 man broke the rules and people have been screaming about it for weeks. Tens of thousands have broken the rules, a large proportion who were no doubt screaming about that 1 man and you think that’s great.
Let’s hope none of your friends or family die as a result or perhaps you can tell them on their death beds it’s for a good cause.
How long ago was it please?
Sojev Labour MPs and its fans praise the demonstrators, one man goes to Durham, the world ends , hypocrisy at it's best.
I’d have more respect for you if you were protesting. At least Delmbox got off his arse and practiced what he preaches.
I criticise you because you have been shouting loudest about the protests, championing them, yet refuse to concede the danger they possess in the current climate.
Then in the next breath you admit you haven’t protested personally for Covid reasons.
Virtue signalling at its finest.
You are a white bloke , as am I and the vast majority of us , despite cardiff being a very multi racial city
Cardiff has , as a city , a history of denying that it has a problem with racism
It most certainly does
Just because the framing of the cardiff 3 was several decades ago doesnt mean it wouldnt or couldn't happen again
This is an issue of race , the spark was the murder of this black guy in america but if you are saying we dont have a problem in this country you are doing it from a white perspective
Its laughable
Cheers for sending the BBC article. It seems really detailed and reading the figures that you suggested seems interesting. Same with the Lammy Review section.
The case of Belly Mujinga has got a CPS review underway. I guess the discussion around her death is about equity and I agree that it is wrong of her boss to allow her to work in such a role, especially considering her pre-existing conditions
You don't know about my life or my political activity, past or present, so don't comment
Perhaps her boss was white and they can still pin the race card on him
I think it's something crazy like 9x more likely to be searched if you're black, I don't know how effective it has been but the idea of racial profiling never sat with me. Feels like it would cause more distrust with the police rather than tackling the issues. Glasgow had a bad problem with knives back in the mid 2000s and their approach was centered around the issues which led to knife crime rather than just taking it off them and locking them up. It worked well there
You're funny. Not in a 'laughing with you' kind of way, unfortunately for you.
I have , we live in a predominantly white country
Most people arrested in this country are white
I don’t want to know, you’re not that significant.
However, what I do know is you’ve been run thumping the protest drum yet you don’t show up to protest yourself.
Laughable.
wasn't it the cardiff 5 ?
I didn't go to the protest because of COVID reasons and any more details would be more personal than I would want to post in public. Again, you don't know about my life so shut up
No I clearly said we have issues, but they are not the same as what we see in America. If you want to talk about the issues then we can, but instead you're trying to import American issues (like black people being killed by police and custody deaths) when they do not apply here. Your sole argument is the cardiff 3, the fact you have to go back 3 decades says it all really.
If you're not going to actually address what I'm saying and instead put words in my mouth I won't bother
Thank god for that , white arrests mean something .
And white peoples 25% more likely to be killed in police custody.
Read the numbers Slugs. Facts not your hypotheticals based on the 80s and 90s.
Jump in the Delorean and ask Doc Brown to bring you back 2020 ffs.
Yep :
On 22 November 1990 three of the five accused were found guilty of White's murder. Tony Paris, Yusef Abdullahi and Stephen Miller – who became known as the "Cardiff*Three" – were each sentenced to life imprisonment. Cousins Ronnie and John Actie were acquitted of the murder; both had spent two years in custody.
Nice fellas the Actie's
I think the reopening is because of public pressure, unless they find her boss kept her in work because he hates black people then I don't think much will come from it. Definitely a case of negligence but it doesn't feel right to use it as an example for a civil rights movement.
Laughable
5 black men were charged with murder , 3 convicted
Then 3 released
And the police officers involved were all given a big fat pension
Of course it wouldnt happen again
Of course not
Shreds. Good podcast. Horrific behaviour from corrupt police. Thankfully we’ve made great strides in the last 10/20 years.
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