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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    What I do remember is one of the experts (perhaps Chris Whitty?) saying fairly early on that the UK will have done well if we can keep the deaths figure under 20,000......

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    What I do remember is one of the experts (perhaps Chris Whitty?) saying fairly early on that the UK will have done well if we can keep the deaths figure under 20,000......
    on the flip side, some professor ( a quick google says it was Professor Neil Ferguson, director of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College, London ) said they expected it to be 500,000

    these experts opinions have varied wildly

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    on the flip side, some professor ( a quick google says it was Professor Neil Ferguson, director of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College, London ) said they expected it to be 500,000

    these experts opinions have varied wildly
    Forecast, not expected.

    They are not opinions, they are models based on data available at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Forecast, not expected.
    point still stands though

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    point still stands though
    What point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    What point?

    these experts opinions have varied wildly

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    these experts opinions have varied wildly
    Oh dear. Hard work sometimes, isn't it?

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    these experts opinions have varied wildly
    They are not opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    on the flip side, some professor ( a quick google says it was Professor Neil Ferguson, director of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College, London ) said they expected it to be 500,000
    Yes, but that estimate was if no lockdown was enforced and no social distancing rules were applied. So a bit different. A worst-case scenario if the government did nothing and just let the virus run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Yes, but that estimate was if no lockdown was enforced and no social distancing rules were applied. So a bit different. A worst-case scenario if the government did nothing and just let the virus run.
    People aren’t that stupid though, although we do seem to have more here than in say Sweden, which as we all know had no lockdown but does have SD. Interesting that a Norway now think there lockdown might have been too severe and done more harm than good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    People aren’t that stupid though, although we do seem to have more here than in say Sweden, which as we all know had no lockdown but does have SD. Interesting that a Norway now think there lockdown might have been too severe and done more harm than good.
    Why is that interesting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    People aren’t that stupid though, although we do seem to have more here than in say Sweden, which as we all know had no lockdown but does have SD. Interesting that a Norway now think there lockdown might have been too severe and done more harm than good.
    Sweden has the highest death rate per capita at one point

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...te-per-capita/

    Their society is more naturally socially distanced than ours too which is why it wasn't worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Sweden has the highest death rate per capita at one point

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...te-per-capita/

    Their society is more naturally socially distanced than ours too which is why it wasn't worse.
    We don't know the whole story yet, but as i've previously said 90% of the deaths in Sweden are the over 70's
    Very poor decisions have cost their lives mostly in the Stockholm region where incompetence seems to have been very high.
    And as per usual the head advisor on the pandemic was seen sitting at a bar close to other people not following his own advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    on the flip side, some professor ( a quick google says it was Professor Neil Ferguson, director of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College, London ) said they expected it to be 500,000

    these experts opinions have varied wildly
    I suppose experts can't be criticised for grossly over-estimating figures, but would be opening themselves up for media mauling if they grossly under-estimated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. Oddie View Post
    I suppose experts can't be criticised for grossly over-estimating figures, but would be opening themselves up for media mauling if they grossly under-estimated.
    you are right

    but even worse than that, a CCMB mauling

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    you are right

    but even worse than that, a CCMB mauling
    It's only you and Bill Oddie (Christ!) that seem to be "mauling" the "experts". The rest on this thread seem to appreciate what the figures represent.

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