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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    The public health act gives comprehensive guidance for control of infectious diseases. The Covid act, separate and supplemental in many ways.
    Public Health Act does not allow for a lock down like the Covid Act.

    Are you not disputing that as the Govt passed Covid related legislation in in Feb they delayed too long in passing subsequent legislation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    Public Health Act does not allow for a lock down like the Covid Act.

    Are you not disputing that as the Govt passed Covid related legislation in in Feb they delayed too long in passing subsequent legislation?
    No, I’m not disputing that. I didn’t know that there was earlier legislation. Regarding the Public health act 1984, whilst what we all a lockdown is not mention, many of the elements are included.....Airports, large gatherings, school closures etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    No, I’m not disputing that. I didn’t know that there was earlier legislation. Regarding the Public health act 1984, whilst what we all a lockdown is not mention, many of the elements are included.....Airports, large gatherings, school closures etc
    But specific places that a magistrate can force closure for the control of diseases. They'd have to lay a hell of a lot of restrictions to lockdown the UK. Hence the Public Health Act is the vehicle for emergencies such as this and the further regulations laid in 2020 allow the complete closure.

    I agree with you it serves a job but its not for UK wide pandemics. Its for an outbreak of Legionnaires disease etc on a ship / airport / school etc so small areas can be closed down by the Local Authority. Unless you think that LAs should have handled it all.

    For info the The Health Protection (Coronavirus) Regulations 2020 was originally laid on Feb 10th. It allowed the detention of individuals with Coronavirus and a criminal offence for those not complying with.

    Which makes me think they didn't believe it would be as bad as it turned out.

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    https://nation.cymru/news/ofcom-and-...s-on-covid-19/

    Polls show Welsh Government far more trusted than UK Government over Covid

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    https://nation.cymru/news/ofcom-and-...s-on-covid-19/

    Polls show Welsh Government far more trusted than UK Government over Covid
    Must say I'm surprised by that high rating for the Welsh Government, but reassured by the findings on Johnson.

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Must say I'm surprised by that high rating for the Welsh Government, but reassured by the findings on Johnson.
    But wouldn't you expect that kind of result from a welsh poll? I'm surprised Johnson's rating is that high.

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    But wouldn't you expect that kind of result from a welsh poll? I'm surprised Johnson's rating is that high.

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    https://nation.cymru/news/ofcom-and-...s-on-covid-19/

    Polls show Welsh Government far more trusted than UK Government over Covid
    It's like the farce over the compulsory wearing of face masks on public transport. They are not really following the science on that one, there is little evidence that mass wearing of face masks will lead to a significant lowering of the rate of infection. The Government admitted that today, so it is window dressing. The Welsh Government the only one, at present, not recommending the use of face masks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    It's like the farce over the compulsory wearing of face masks on public transport. They are not really following the science on that one, there is little evidence that mass wearing of face masks will lead to a significant lowering of the rate of infection. The Government admitted that today, so it is window dressing. The Welsh Government the only one, at present, not recommending the use of face masks.
    I disagree with that, hasn’t wearing a mask been shown to help stop you spreading it if you already have it by around 90%.

    If you don’t have it, it only really stops you catching it by 10%.

    But since it’s quite likely people might have it without realising it, wearing it on public transport should be quite useful.

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    I disagree with that, hasn’t wearing a mask been shown to help stop you spreading it if you already have it by around 90%.

    If you don’t have it, it only really stops you catching it by 10%.

    But since it’s quite likely people might have it without realising it, wearing it on public transport should be quite useful.
    And as on public transport the social distancing 2 metre rule won't be enforceable the mask adds some protection for close encounters. (Third or other kind )

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    I disagree with that, hasn’t wearing a mask been shown to help stop you spreading it if you already have it by around 90%.

    If you don’t have it, it only really stops you catching it by 10%.

    But since it’s quite likely people might have it without realising it, wearing it on public transport should be quite useful.
    The science is quite sketchy on it. There are arguments that it lulls people into a false sense of security which sees them drop other preventative measures (such as social distancing and hand washing). Ordinarily, I would say it won't cause any harm, the impact is said to be minimal. I've seen people just dumping their gloves and face masks in trolleys and leaving them for others to clean up too.

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    Best thing about the face mask, I think, is that it stops subconscious nose and mouth touching.

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