Reply With QuoteWhat is it?Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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Any thoughts on the CHAZ?
What is it?
An alternative way of living. No police, just people making decisions for themselves.
Slab City?
A self-declared autonomous zone in Seattle with the goal of creating an area without police among other things
Just 'Themselves' or is it a collective?
I'm not sure, I've seen a few disagreements taking place, but 'Themselves' meaning without government authority or the rule of law.
It appears to be a collective, as there is no clear leader (well initially anyway). The closest historical example I can think of is the Paris Commune but this is obviously on a far smaller scale
Its an interesting idea, I'm not sure the area they've occupied is really big enough to really test the viability of this system and will just be used to discredit any attempts or suggestions at alternative ways of living
Very interesting, a rhetorical question, but how would healthcare, social well being, benefits etc be exercised? I suppose it depends on how much autonomy they want.
It gets a bit tricky whey they have to produce economic output, or if the members start displaying criminal tendencies. At the moment it's like a week in Glastonbury, with lots of free stuff thrown in.
Ooooh house prices will be low, loads of happy pills , you can bet someone will take control like it of not,
didnt they try it years back ( maybe 15 ) on a old Air force bases in the dessert, the USAF had removed all buildings and just left " slabs of concrete " and they tried to setup something similar
pretty sure the place descended into anarchy and most left
It won't be long before a Stalin type figure shows up to take control.
I watched a series on the place, might have been 10 episodes, they followed the place when it started and followed it through to its collapse, most relied on " social security payments " and a few worked in the nearby town, in the end the drugs issue became too bad and people were getting burgled or robbed, 2 got shot dead and the " normal " people soon realised it was falling apart and looked to move on and try it elsewhere
a great concept, but just failed inside 2 years
i cannot for the life of me think where it was though, i know it was in the desert.
Yep, great concept and I would like it to work, but people are unpredictable.
You are not thinking about that Indian Guru (from the sub continent that kind of Indian) that went to the States are you ?
Anarchist communities, as this one appears to be, aren't just some random chaos as many portray Anarchism. They're founded on solid Socialist views, so they have the theory there to back up any potential questions, its a more equal and libertarian kind of society without domination from above, with workers councils and the like. It is a form of implementing Socialist ideals but without the need of politicians and so on.
The anarchist collectivist communities in and Andalucia and Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War were good examples of this kind of community working really well. Unfortunately as this community in Seattle is just 6 blocks and appears to be built as a rather reactionary move rather than as a genuinely planned potential government, I can't see it lasting and will just discredit these movements.
Anarchist ideas are very interesting and are quite often unfairly disregarded
That must have been a trifle difficult.
Not if you have a Great Basin
If you ever watched "The Wire" they tried something like it in Baltimore to get drugs off the normal streets. It was just a TV series but the result was perfectly predictable
no, it was on discovery, ive tried to find it, but cant
that joke was very off pudding to me
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