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    Aeroplane Over The Etihad

    An aeroplane flew over The Etihad towing a banner stating ‘White Lives Matter Burnley’. Burnley FC have apparently apologised and say that they’ll ban those responsible from Turf Moor if found. A bit of a far right problem in some M62 towns.

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    a place I like to go for amusement is the comments section of the yahoo website.
    you wouldn't believe the stuff that gets written in there. whatever the topic someone will manage to have the worst possible take on it on there.

    It is gammon central on there, and of course they didn't disappoint on the Burnley story.

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/white-live...192839866.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    An aeroplane flew over The Etihad towing a banner stating ‘White Lives Matter Burnley’. Burnley FC have apparently apologised and say that they’ll ban those responsible from Turf Moor if found. A bit of a far right problem in some M62 towns.
    Burnley have always had a far right following

    In these smaller northern former mill towns like Burnley, Rochdale , Oldham etc the football clubs seem to be breeding grounds for the BNP idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    a place I like to go for amusement is the comments section of the yahoo website.
    you wouldn't believe the stuff that gets written in there. whatever the topic someone will manage to have the worst possible take on it on there.

    It is gammon central on there, and of course they didn't disappoint on the Burnley story.

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/white-live...192839866.html
    It's like a nazi party get together

    I have never trusted foreigners!

    Too many golliwog haircuts on tv !

    Jesus christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It's like a nazi party get together

    I have never trusted foreigners!

    Too many golliwog haircuts on tv !

    Jesus christ
    It's when you read shit like that I wish I had faith and the rapture was upon us.

    Noah prepare the Ark - flood everyone, the world is full of morons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    It's like a nazi party get together

    I have never trusted foreigners!

    Too many golliwog haircuts on tv !

    Jesus christ
    Edid Blyton has a lot to answer for.

    In Toytown, Noddy and his friends were forever on the receiving end of the naughty golliwogs' tricks.,..

    eexcept for the the one who fell in the stream and was rescued by Noddy, he became a friend, but "chalky the golliwog" had lost his black colour in the water!
    So he was a good guy now that he wasn't black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    An aeroplane flew over The Etihad towing a banner stating ‘White Lives Matter Burnley’. Burnley FC have apparently apologised and say that they’ll ban those responsible from Turf Moor if found. A bit of a far right problem in some M62 towns.
    There's enough of a far right problem in South Wales.

    The other day on social media I came across what can only be described as a retarded moron, who reckoned that all this equality stuff was a far left dream and needed fighting.

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    Just read the other site on this banner story

    It's a bunch of swivel eyed loons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    It's when you read shit like that I wish I had faith and the rapture was upon us.

    Noah prepare the Ark - flood everyone, the world is full of morons.
    Turn the lights out

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    Murder of stephen lawrence on bbc two

    People argue we have moved on since then

    Reading the comments on there , it's obvious many have not

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Murder of stephen lawrence on bbc two

    People argue we have moved on since then

    Reading the comments on there , it's obvious many have not
    I see friends of mine saying racism isn't a problem where we live.

    It's yet to dawn on them we live in a white place. If you take out the families that run all the take-aways or the dentist you can count the people with different colour skin on one hand.

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    I wonder if those behind the flying of that plane could come up with one example where white people are discriminated against in favour of BAME people in mainstream UK?

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    Whatever your thoughts on the rights and wrongs of the banner - do you believe that it represents a small minority or a silent majority?

    I think there are a lot of people who perceive that “you can’t say or do anything these days for fear of being called a racist”.

    And that in itself can lead to a backlash.

    The young white male in a lot of these towns are in a minority themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadstool View Post
    Whatever your thoughts on the rights and wrongs of the banner - do you believe that it represents a small minority or a silent majority?

    I think there are a lot of people who perceive that “you can’t say or do anything these days for fear of being called a racist”.

    And that in itself can lead to a backlash.

    The young white male in a lot of these towns are in a minority themselves.

    I think people generally believe that their own views are the correct and widely held ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadstool View Post
    Whatever your thoughts on the rights and wrongs of the banner - do you believe that it represents a small minority or a silent majority?

    I think there are a lot of people who perceive that “you can’t say or do anything these days for fear of being called a racist”.

    And that in itself can lead to a backlash.

    The young white male in a lot of these towns are in a minority themselves.
    I think that you have a point about young white men living in what used to be prosperous industrial towns, they have certainly been left behind and forgotten and a lot of evidence points that way, especially with drug addiction and suicide. It's no coincidence that we have a seen a rise in far right politics and a backlash against the EU in these areas, because whether we like it or not,alotof young working class white men have little hope, job opportunity and Educational ambitions. They have been shit on as well and it shouldn't be ignored.

    Are they racist? Some are-Would their racist tendencies be as prevalent if there was real job opportunities in their area? Probably not.

    Th working class have always been good at sharing and integrating,they've had to, sure there have been problems along the way, but on the whole, as long as their is work and prosperity, Working class people have always been welcoming and accommodating.

    The problems kick in when Politicians blatantly don't care about these people, businesses and corporations are allowed to treat these people poorly, education standards drop etc. That's when the Racism and far right politics start creeping in, and they have. Are young white working class males discriminated against? Maybe not for the colour of their skin, but certainly for their class and in some cases within the middle class media, their culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I think that you have a point about young white men living in what used to be prosperous industrial towns, they have certainly been left behind and forgotten and a lot of evidence points that way, especially with drug addiction and suicide. It's no coincidence that we have a seen a rise in far right politics and a backlash against the EU in these areas, because whether we like it or not,alotof young working class white men have little hope, job opportunity and Educational ambitions. They have been shit on as well and it shouldn't be ignored.

    Are they racist? Some are-Would their racist tendencies be as prevalent if there was real job opportunities in their area? Probably not.

    Th working class have always been good at sharing and integrating,they've had to, sure there have been problems along the way, but on the whole, as long as their is work and prosperity, Working class people have always been welcoming and accommodating.

    The problems kick in when Politicians blatantly don't care about these people, businesses and corporations are allowed to treat these people poorly, education standards drop etc. That's when the Racism and far right politics start creeping in, and they have. Are young white working class males discriminated against? Maybe not for the colour of their skin, but certainly for their class and in some cases within the middle class media, their culture.
    Great post. Perhaps the message should be "All Lives Matter". That is inclusive and portrays a message that there is, or should be no, difference between black and white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Great post. Perhaps the message should be "All Lives Matter".
    Unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Unbelievable.
    So all lives don't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Great post. Perhaps the message should be "All Lives Matter". That is inclusive and portrays a message that there is, or should be no, difference between black and white.
    Someone recently posted a good analogy that the "all lives matter/white lives matter" is like if a house is on fire in a street, stopping the fire brigade from putting it out and instead demanding that they spray all the houses equally.

    Yes lives matter, but at the moment saying all lives matter or white lives matter is just serving as taking focus away from the groups that are still in 2020 being marginalized and discriminated against in the worst ways imaginable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    Great post. Perhaps the message should be "All Lives Matter". That is inclusive and portrays a message that there is, or should be no, difference between black and white.
    All Lives Matter Guy from r/PoliticalHumor


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    I think that you have a point about young white men living in what used to be prosperous industrial towns, they have certainly been left behind and forgotten and a lot of evidence points that way, especially with drug addiction and suicide. It's no coincidence that we have a seen a rise in far right politics and a backlash against the EU in these areas, because whether we like it or not,alotof young working class white men have little hope, job opportunity and Educational ambitions. They have been shit on as well and it shouldn't be ignored.

    Are they racist? Some are-Would their racist tendencies be as prevalent if there was real job opportunities in their area? Probably not.

    Th working class have always been good at sharing and integrating,they've had to, sure there have been problems along the way, but on the whole, as long as their is work and prosperity, Working class people have always been welcoming and accommodating.

    The problems kick in when Politicians blatantly don't care about these people, businesses and corporations are allowed to treat these people poorly, education standards drop etc. That's when the Racism and far right politics start creeping in, and they have. Are young white working class males discriminated against? Maybe not for the colour of their skin, but certainly for their class and in some cases within the middle class media, their culture.
    Are they finding life tough because of their race, or because they live in an economically struggling town?

    Edit: I know you address this in your final paragraph, it's more of an open question than specific to you. Just related to your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Are they finding life tough because of their race, or because they live in an economically struggling town?

    Edit: I know you address this in your final paragraph, it's more of an open question than specific to you. Just related to your post.
    In my opinion, White working class men, especially the young, have an awful lot to be pissed off about. I understand that they're not targeted because of the colour of their skin but in my opinion, because of their class and culture, Black people get it both ways, class and skin colour, and the racist ingrained perceptions that go with their skin colour that are still heavily ingrained within society.

    I'm trying to think as if i was stuck in a town (as a white male) with zero opportunity, social deprivation, poor housing and living standards, shitty jobs and then all of the social problems that go with it. Drug abuse, a reliance on Alcohol, teenage pregnancy, lack of activity, depression. I very much doubt that these problems were as prevalent when there was work and a thriving economy, because people had something to value which in turn, creates a healthy mind both socially and politically in my opinion.

    Successive governments have wiped these areas out, these areas are full of white working class people, plenty of them don't feel valued and have lost all faith in politics, that's why we've seen successive protest votes in the EU referendum and then the large majority for the Tories, same thing in the states. The Left in this country have adopted right wing policies for so long that these communities have sort of taken things into their own hands by kicking back politically which has allowed an opening for the far right, wherever fascists prosper you can bet that there's been huge economic and political neglect.

    Thesad thing for me is that these post industrial towns (and we can include the Valleys in this) were never really racist, the far right was never part of the picture because it certainly didn't benefit the white people who lived and worked in these areas. The industrial towns of the North and the Valleys were welcoming, they had plenty of immigrants due to the labour shortage and people rubbed along just fine, because everyone felt valued and had a purpose.

    So, to add it up, it's about class, but in true fashion, and as an act of desperation, some working class people are making a distinction between black and white, when the thing is that both sides have been tortured politically, yet in true desperado politics, the weak attack the weak-that's the way i see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadstool View Post
    Whatever your thoughts on the rights and wrongs of the banner - do you believe that it represents a small minority or a silent majority?

    I think there are a lot of people who perceive that “you can’t say or do anything these days for fear of being called a racist”.

    And that in itself can lead to a backlash.

    The young white male in a lot of these towns are in a minority themselves.
    87.17% of the UK population is white, i fail to see where any town whites are minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Turn the lights out
    Massive over reaction from you two as usual.
    The flying of the banner was moronic, as are the comments on the site posted on here, but its a small minority attracted to that site like moths to a flame.
    The majority of folk in the UK realise how daft that banner was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Massive over reaction from you two as usual.
    The flying of the banner was moronic, as are the comments on the site posted on here, but its a small minority attracted to that site like moths to a flame.
    The majority of folk in the UK realise how daft that banner was.
    Shame that you see an attack on intentional racism as a massive over reaction.

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