It's a shame, but I feel like have to post this again.
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It's a shame, but I feel like have to post this again.
The Burnley captain was superb.
Really depressing reading some of these posts.
Depressing but also shocking. I don't know whether attitudes have regressed over the past 5 years (with the Brexit campaign as a trigger) or if the change in political culture and pervasiveness of social media has taken the lid off what was hiding before.
The massive positive is the way the BLM camapign has grown - and it feels in some places that a tipping point has passed. The stance of English and Welsh clubs - the NHS/BLM support on the shirts, giving the knee etc - may have much more of an impact than the demonstrations and removals of slaver-related symbols.
But politics has polarised everywhere (led by what has happened in the USA), in some places society has polarised, and there is no doubt that opinions on this board have polarised. Depressing.
I think it's very much the latter. Throughout the Brexit campaign the truth about beliefs and attitudes of large swathes of the general public in the UK was gradually revealed and the whole affair clearly emboldened the legions of bigots and racists among us. I don't think there's any doubt about that.
Bandying around terms such as 'snowflake' and 'gammon' do not help intelligent debate. Neither does irrelevant analogies and the use of what is referred to these days as 'whatabaoutisms'.
End of sermon.
Bless you all.
Enoch Powell was right. Well this thread was heading there and we finally arrived.
Right, let's start with the wall of gammon. Let's say that wall contained 9 black people and was called the wall of ***insert a food that looks like a black man***. It would be labelled racist I'm almost sure of it regardless of who posted the original piece. It would be especially so if hijacked by say Britain First and used by them.
I don't like being labelled as racist when I am not simply falling in line with what certain posters post here. I think people who do this need a look at themselves.
I'm also not sure why you're giving me a BLM lesson again. I haven't once knocked the BLM. Respond to the posters who have questioned it.
TLG posts that it can't be a racist term because it was thought up by white people. By that reckoning most black names would not be racist if they were originally from a black person to another.
I believe they would/could be as names can evolve and take on different meanings, being used in other ways and also be looked at differently with time. The name is based on somebody's skin colour, be it enraged and flushed or not. Put what spin you like on it, a gammon can only be a white man.
TLG just has his little clever remarks when he has nothing further and will question the other posters intellect while carefully picking through the posts and picking the parts he thinks he can respond to. A gem in this thread that sums him up is 'Let me have a wild guess, are you 40-70, white male.....'. Who does he think he is? He really does see himself as some kind of font of knowledge around here doesn't he.
Carry on lads. Sorry for even questioning it.
Carry on shooting down anybody that dare move from what the more prominent posters say.
I would add though that if I was boycotting and said I would never watch the club again and was then found to be attending I wouldn't be on here acting all high and mighty. Each to their own.
That's not what I said, but discussing this subject with you is clearly pointless. You asked a question, and yet it was blatantly rhetorical as you'd obviously already made up your mind that 'gammon' is a racist term, and in order to reinforce your belief you've used some utterly ridiculous examples. You didn't want a discussion, you wanted to make a point and it was a daft one.
Incidentally, if you read the thread back I didn't state you were a white male aged 40 to 70 either, but don't let that bother you. You clearly don't understand plain English as you've demonstrated clearly in your comments about my re-brand protests.
It's a shame you're so far up your own arse as it's a lovely day outside.
But as you're posting on a message board, just like me, why not take a few minutes to enjoy a racist video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGxS...lopianCanoeist
The Libyan bloke involved in that attack was either a muslim fundamentalist or he was homophobic as all the men killed were gay
I dont think he was a racist , most of his mates were white
He also had serious mental health problems
Many inner city areas of large cities are predominately mixed or muslim or afro Caribbean, birds of a feather etc , its surely no surprise to you that you went to an inner city area of birmingham and there were mostly non white people and the local shop catered for the local ethnic minority population ?
I live near a school and a catholic church . During term time the roads are blocked and driveways blocked with parents cars , and on a Sunday the church lot turn up to do the same .
It's annoying but it doesnt make me feel uneasy
Feck me. This goes down as one of the most ignorant messages I've ever read. You have capably shown how you've misjudged the entire thing and shifted it to your far right agenda. I've been through your post history and you make Nick Griffin look like a moderate.
The fact you want to crush anyone in solidarity with black people against racism towards them makes you a rather dangerous racist.
"outraging public decency". A rather subjective count, open to interpretation and bias. If it were in front of a group of kids, or a group of picnickers, yes, but he was facing the wall - and I doubt anyone was 'outraged' except the BLM supporter who took the photo and alerted the coppers. Did he have a solicitor ? I doubt it.
Not interested in the rest of your post but veg1960 has posted a link to a survey that shows police are nearly 7 times more likely to stop a black man than at white man in south wales
Of course as you are white and you have never seen the police stop a black man randomly and if they have they obviously had a reason then ignore the survey
I haven't seen the survey and I wouldn't generally go looking for it. I said I have never seen it. you can gob off all you like and get on your pseudo-political high horse but it won't alter the fact. I have never seen it!! what is difficult to grasp about that sludge?
Here is my advice . Go to the link and read it . It clearly shows that in south wales you are 6 times more likely to be stopped if you are black . You say you have never seen it happen . That's completely irrelevant .
It happens .....black people in south wales get stopped in south wales and they are 6 times more likely to get stopped than you .
End of story
You havnt seen it ? Well I never saw adolf hitler but I knew the fecker existed .....it doesnt matter two tits that you or I have never seen a black man stopped ......are you saying because you and your mates have not seen the police stop a black man in cardiff then it follows that it never happens ?
You seem to be suggesting that because you as a white bloke have not seen policexstops on innocent black people that everything's ok , it's not a problem
It's not an issue for you because you are not the person being stopped
What's a pseudo political high horse , it sounds a fascinating creature ?