Cardiff Council are killing the City.

[Tuerto]

I’m not against having such an area, I think it’s a fine idea as a permanent thing, I Just object to the location and what that does to the public transport and the normal flow of traffic around and through the city.

If they had put one in st Mary St and one in the Hayes they could stay there for ever for me, and there would probably then be enough seats for anyone to grab food from any city outlet and sit down and watch the world go by instead of being forced to buy food from outlets that have “signed up”
As it is it is badly thought out and badly executed and I am convinced that certain elements of the council were more concerned with closing that street than making a nice area for pedestrians.
With the grass outside outside the castle, St Mary Street the Hayes there is more than enough room to do what has been done and more. If ordinary people can see that why can’t the councillors who are paid an awful lot of money in expenses to take care of our lovely city?

It would be interesting to see how many official complaints this scheme has had. And have the local press been on it? Apart from that. fair enough, you make fair points in my opinion and you haven't belittled anyone while doing so, not like Bluetit who seems to think that a panini should only end up in a sticker book.

[BLUETIT]

It would be interesting to see how many official complaints this scheme has had. And have the local press been on it? Apart from that. fair enough, you make fair points in my opinion and you haven't belittled anyone while doing so, not like Bluetit who seems to think that a panini should only end up in a STICKER BOOK..

With the corners turned up

[Tuerto]

With the corners turned up

I'm surprised you didn't get involved with the geography thread, i bet you could name a pub for every ground visited, probably know the landlords name....

[Tuerto]

you've probably only been down there on sunny days when the expected number of tables occupied is high, let's see how it performs on a rainy day when the xTable is much lower.

It's not going to perform as well when the weather is shit, that's obvious.

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I'm not sure if Tuerto's been whooshed here or if he's in deep cover

[Tuerto]

Would you take your cats out to town in the rain?

Cats wouldn't like the 10 minute walk across the city centre, they would rather an integrated transport system that sees all animals, not just of the feline persuasion, able to get across our wonderful city and also alleviate any confusion caused to visiting animals like Swift's, who have flown thousands of miles in order to enjoy our beautiful city and not cold coffee or a ****ing wonky panini.

[Tuerto]

I'm not sure if Tuerto's been whooshed here or if he's in deep cover

Probably whooshed, Is he on 'our side'

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Probably whooshed, Is he on 'our side'

I think so, but regardless of that he's definitely on the side of talking about the outside eating area in football terms, which whooshed you completely

[Tuerto]

I think so, but regardless of that he's definitely on the side of talking about the outside eating area in football terms, which whooshed you completely

"Obviously"

[CCFCC3PO]

When you do that with restaurants like he said, and when you do things like that, like he said about Paninis, I tell you something, he went down in my estimations when he said that. I've stayed quiet, and I haven't resorted to that. You can tell him now, if he's still reading it, we're still feeding. And, he's got to go down to Cardiff and get something on Saturday, and I'd love it if he ate something, love it.

[Der Kaiser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta41xU-tkFA

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Sitting on uncomfortable chairs in the middle of a city on a day when temperatures have hit nearly hit 30 degrees


Next to people who are so desperate for a drink they are clearly alcoholics

On the next table two parents arguing as their kids scoff food

If someone enjoys that sort of thing they need a psychiatrist

[Tuerto]

Sitting on uncomfortable chairs in the middle of a city on a day when temperatures have hit nearly hit 30 degrees


Next to people who are so desperate for a drink they are clearly alcoholics

On the next table two parents arguing as their kids scoff food

If someone enjoys that sort of thing they need a psychiatrist

That's probably exactly what's going on-better not do anything just in case somebody drinks to much or the kids play up.

[Optimistic Nick]

Sitting on uncomfortable chairs in the middle of a city on a day when temperatures have hit nearly hit 30 degrees


Next to people who are so desperate for a drink they are clearly alcoholics

On the next table two parents arguing as their kids scoff food

If someone enjoys that sort of thing they need a psychiatrist

You could have sat in the shade, on a slightly cooler day, next to the table with the Dutch women’s hockey team. Not sure why you chose that other table.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

What would constitute success for this venture? And what would failure look like?

loads of people getting pissed up in the summer sun , few rucks , old bill van , thats from 4pm onwards

Before that people getting pissed up in the summer sun , few rucks , old bill , fat families scoffing overpriced junk food

Failure.........nobody bothering once this hot spell ends

[Tuerto]

loads of people getting pissed up in the summer sun , few rucks , old bill van , thats from 4pm onwards

Before that people getting pissed up in the summer sun , few rucks , old bill , fat families scoffing overpriced junk food

Failure.........nobody bothering once this hot spell ends

Best not do anything then, lets legislate for people who can't behave or those who feel put out, better not try anything is the best policy as someone, somewhere isn't going to be happy and people might act like arseholes

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

That's probably exactly what's going on-better not do anything just in case somebody drinks to much or the kids play up.

people are unable to control their drinking

Kids always play up and parents always argue

British people in hot weather , The Fall

[Tuerto]

people are unable to control their drinking

Kids always play up and parents always argue

British people in hot weather , The Fall

I can control my drinking and my kids were pretty well behaved when they were little, same as a lot of people.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I can control my drinking and my kids were pretty well behaved when they were little, same as a lot of people.

its a fecking nightmare on places like mill Lane in the summer

The thought of being near anyone drinking or parents with kids in tow in the summer is my idea of hell

People drinking become so bloody loud and kids screaming or moaning about their food does my head in

Before the lock down I took a lucky lady to a local place for a bite to eat . The table next to us were a family and the owners of the bar brought along a high chair so the baby was continually crying and the other two kids moaning .

Have a special room for parents with kids , I was on a promise

[Tuerto]

its a fecking nightmare on places like mill Lane in the summer

The thought of being near anyone drinking or parents with kids in tow in the summer is my idea of hell

People drinking become so bloody loud and kids screaming or moaning about their food does my head in

Before the lock down I took a lucky lady to a local place for a bite to eat . The table next to us were a family and the owners of the bar brought along a high chair so the baby was continually crying and the other two kids moaning .

Have a special room for parents with kids , I was on a promise

Mill lane does attract a fair few piss heads, i'll give you that. Culturally, South Wales isn't particularly geared towards alcohol and hot days, that's fair to say. Lots of reasons why, many of them probably a bit to deep to get into.

This other place doesn't seem to be geared that way. It isn't about middle aged drunks, it seems to be a reaction to the circumstances we find ourselves in and more about families from what i can gather. There are time slots and allocations, not the perfect environment for our resident drunks.

[Michael Morris]

Due to severe weather conditions, the Castle Quarter Café has now closed for the rest of the day. The café is scheduled to open as normal in the morning. We’ll let you know if there are other changes to opening times. Thank you.


Welcome to Wales

[xsnaggle]

Extinction Rebellion must have been well pissed off today. I saw some of them in town about 9 AM.
Imagine them having a plan to paralyse the city by closing Castle street again only to discover that the City Council has beaten them to it and done it already!!!

[Michael Morris]

The Council will be re-opening Castle Street to buses, taxis and emergency vehicles as a temporary measure on Sunday November 29th, while a public consultation is held on the future of the thoroughfare.

The re-opening will help buses and taxis cross east to west and west to east more effectively during the on-going road works in the city centre.

This temporary design will ensure that the pop-up cycleway - which will run from Leckwith Road up Newport Road to the junction with Broadway - will be retained as part of the temporary scheme.

This will also include extending the pavement alongside the shops and bars opposite the castle into the road to give a wider walkway for people to socially distance. It will also create an opportunity for hospitality businesses to have more space outside their premises to trade.

Under the plans, Castle Street will contain two lanes for buses and taxis to travel east and or west, and the pop-up cycle lane by the castle will remain.

Work has also taken place on Westgate Street, to extend the pavement to give extra outside space for bars and restaurants, while ensuring there is enough road space for buses and taxis to travel up and down Westgate Street onto Castle Street.

The scheme is being installed at the end of November, so it can bed-in before the Christmas season begins.

Cllr Caro Wild, Cabinet Member for Strategic Planning and Transport, said: The Council recognises that the closure of Castle Street has divided opinions, with strong arguments being made in favour and against the changes that have been implemented in recent months.

"Alongside a detailed modelling exercise on future traffic flows, we will undertake a comprehensive consultation exercise, involving city centre businesses, local residents, and citizens across Cardiff, to help determine the final plan for the street."

Cardiff Council is monitoring congestion and air quality across the city centre. It will undertake detailed modelling on any long-term plans, which will help determine if any additional mitigations are required in neighbouring wards.

[BLUETIT]

"Work has also taken place on Westgate Street, to extend the pavement to give extra outside space for bars and restaurants, while ensuring there is enough road space for buses and taxis to travel up and down Westgate Street onto Castle Street"



So they are still insisting, that people want to eat & drink OUTSIDE in the winter. Roll on the elections

[Tuerto]

"Work has also taken place on Westgate Street, to extend the pavement to give extra outside space for bars and restaurants, while ensuring there is enough road space for buses and taxis to travel up and down Westgate Street onto Castle Street"



So they are still insisting, that people want to eat & drink OUTSIDE in the winter. Roll on the elections

Which party is going to get your vote?