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We just need a far better public transport system, electric trams maybe? It would look very nice all closed off but whether it’s practical doubt chucking loads of traffic through western ave, llandaff etc instead. Tell you what they should do is make Wellfield rd pedestrian a only, it’s always too busy anyway.
Yes but they'd probably have a public enquiry then a government one to see the environmental affect of trams on Drakeford's country garden country and then reject it. They can then set up a commission with a huge budget to look at alternatives.Originally Posted by goats
I agree with what you say about Wellfield road, and while they're at it the should close Merthyr road in Whitchurch, traffic is killing the local area. And they could close Cowbridge Road east past the shops in Canton and send everything down Wellington Street, close Severn Grove and Conway Road and close Pontcanna street too, that is used by far to many people and is very close to Mr Drakeford's house!!
Depends on which room you enterVenting? Venting? how very dare you.
I may get a response from the council but i won't get an argument will I?
https://youtu.be/xpAvcGcEc0k
Thank you for your support, Mr Delmbox. I hope I can count on your continued backing and your potential vote in the next election.God, he gave you that one on a plate didn't he
For the record, 100% agree with you on the gun analogy in the other thread, and the destruction of any uniqueness and identity about the city in this one
(Another "politician's reply" from me)
The council made their intentions clear about 20 years ago when they paved the bus stop pull-ins and extended them into the road. Busses now stop on the mai road, cars often cannot pass.
Cardiff need to have an integrated transport system along the lines on London (but a bit cheaper, obv) before they block private cars.
If the public transport was good, this wouldn't be an issue.
Speaking as somebody who walks through the city centre most working days under normal circumstances, who walked through the city centre most working days during the height of the pandemic and who has walked through the city centre most working days since the changes were introduced, I can confirm without fear of contradiction that what the council have done is an absolute, complete and utter ****ing shitshow with no benefits whatsoever.
To those who are suggesting it's OK, I'd ask you one question: have you actually witnessed this farce for yourselves?
It is another way OTT joke, can you imagine people going out in the evening and then adhering to the nonsense written on the street?
Even more funny will be the council jokers trying to implement it. It will all be gone and go down as another huge waste of money in a few months.
Well absolutely nobody pays any attention to it during the daytime, so I very much doubt it.
Our city centre looks very decent under normal circumstances. In my experience, visitors are generally impressed. Now our streets are full of pitiful yellow paint, the roads are overflowing with traffic bollards and there are pointless wooden huts dotted all over the place getting in everybody's way.
Meanwhile, getting in and out of town has become a great deal more difficult.
Utter madness. Whoever came up with this load of bollocks needs a good shoeing.
Will the street dwellers be eyeing up these wooden huts?
I haven't been in, has the covered area been completed then?
Ah the old " you havent played the game yourself " what do you know?
How fortunate we are to have so many experts on this board .
The gunman for walking through town .
CCFc30 or whatever his name is for everything else ..
Very droll, Jimmy. Very droll.
Have you been to the city centre during the last fortnight? If so, I'd be interested in your view of the current situation.
Cardiff is one accident away from gridlock on most (normal) weekends, and this won't help matters at all. It's fortunate in some ways that traffic is quiet at the moment, or closing Castle Street would cause even more of a problem. There are not enough bridges over the Taff (ie. to go east-west), and this leads to bottlenecks.
I've complained on here before about the Council's traffic policy, and it's not going to get any better, There are plans to bring in 'pay-to-park' on a number of busy streets (Whitchurch Road, for example), and this will further damage shops by preventing people from stopping. Cathays Terrace and Allensbank Road are going to lose a third of their widths to new 'kerbed' cycle lanes, and whereas I have no problem with that in itself, it will mean that a few hundred parking spaces will be lost.
But to go back to the city centre itself, I can see this becoming a wasteland - few shops, just bars and coffee houses. Queen Street is already very tatty and there are a number of empty shops. If they want to boost the city centre, it should be easy to drive there, and there should be free and easily accessible parking. Will they do it? Don't be daft - they'd rather see the city collapse, than go back on their plans.
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They haven't been implemented yet, have they? (We're still talking about the reasons for closure of Castle Steeet, I assume). Genuine question as I've not been into the centre of town lately.
I just had a look at a map of the city centre changes and it seems the closures took place on 22 June.
I notice that there is no longer any way of crossing the river Taff in the city centre as both the Castle st bridge and the Wood st bridge are closed to private cars
It seems crazy that our two main city centre roads east to west are closed
xsnaggle wasn't talking solely about the closure of Castle Street and neither was I. That's an absolute joke in itself, but it's not the only problem by any means.
Castle Street is not the only road that is closed around the city centre. Far from it. There are bollards all over the place blocking a variety of roads as far up as Station Terrace and part of Newport Road. Meanwhile, utterly pointless wooden 'information' cabins have popped up in various locations around the centre, Queen Street has been plastered with idiotic yellow paint that amounts to little more than graffiti as it's being ignored by almost everyone, while groups of council workers sit or stand around in high-viz jackets burning up our ever-increasing council tax for no apparent reason.
Like most people I've spoken to in recent weeks, I want to see a gradual return to normality. The last four months have been difficult and I can fully appreciate that things are not going to return to normal quickly. It will be a steady process, but what we definitely don't need under any circumstances is the council making a dog's dinner of the city centre while making life even more difficult for the vast majority of shoppers, traders and those of us who need to travel in and out of the centre for work.
Spooky!
omg we're best friends
They implemented the road closures 2 weeks ago for what good reason I dont know.
My original post was with regard to the council killing the shops in the city centre. Nothing to do with the tramshed or anywhere other than what I mentioned. I dont know much about the tramshed saga but I thought that was a commercial decision not a council one.
My solution is to leave it alone and do nothing. They are just heaping more misery on people and it us all both useless and unnecessary.
Sorry, I thought it was clear what I meant (as Delmbox asked the same question as me)... The implementation that we're talking about is the 'covered seating area'.
I said "We're still talking about the reasons for closure of Castle Street, I assume" - not the closure itself.
If it's not completed, then surely we don't know whether it's been worth the short-term pain for long-term gain yet (I hate that saying).
It will never be worth it while it damages the very businesses it is allegedly designed to protect. I think it is enlightening that the council did not consult the businesses concerned nor did they tell them of their plans at all until the Saturday afternoon prior to the sunday morning closing.
You may end up right but none of us can say at this stage whether this is true or not
A proper reply from the council? Stop it. You're killing me 😂😂
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