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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I could bang on about how Wales is being turned into a tumbleweed ghost town by the Assembly - sorry, Senydd, but I won't. But what is the real nail in the coffin of this nation is the complete, total, and utter lack of accountability, criticism, scrutiny, from any section of the Welsh media. The Echo is less than a rag, the national newspaper of Wales cannot ever find anything wrong or questionable about the Assembly's actions and records, and the BBC is run by the Welsh-speaking Taffia..
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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    So what do the council do? Do they do everything within their powers to attract people back into the city centre to do their shopping? No, they don’t.

    What they do is make access to the city centre by car as difficult as possible, disrupt the bus services and do their damnedest to make the place look unappealing with their myriad of traffic bollards, their poxy wooden huts, their bright yellow paint and their collection of idiots standing around in hi-viz jackets doing sod all.

    Wankers.
    I get your frustration about the access but I really think you need to not let the paint and stuff get to you this much, it's not that bad at all. I can't imagine anyone not going into town because of a couple of wooden huts either

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    I get your frustration about the access but I really think you need to not let the paint and stuff get to you this much, it's not that bad at all. I can't imagine anyone not going into town because of a couple of wooden huts either
    Everyone I've spoken to (about life in general, not about this particular dog's breakfast) would like things to return to some sort of normal as soon as possible. Everyone appreciates it's not going to happen overnight, but every step towards normality is a positive as far as I'm concerned.

    However, instead of helping to get the city centre back to normal, the twats at the council seem determined to do the opposite. Road closures, traffic bollards over the shop, crappy paint on the pavements that is completely ignored by the majority of people, wooden cabins which are empty more often than they are manned and people lounging about in hi-viz jackets doing nothing in particular. That's where my bastard council tax is going, apparently.

    As you may have guessed, I'm heartily sick of all this bollocks now and walking through the city centre every week day (which I need to do to get home from work) is not helping one iota. **** the council and their 'new normal', the twats. They've put up banners now saying 'Same 'Diff Only Safer.' That just about sums them up. Why they can't just let life gradually return to normal I don't know. They irritate the shit out of me.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Everyone I've spoken to (about life in general, not about this particular dog's breakfast) would like things to return to some sort of normal as soon as possible. Everyone appreciates it's not going to happen overnight, but every step towards normality is a positive as far as I'm concerned.

    However, instead of helping to get the city centre back to normal, the twats at the council seem determined to do the opposite. Road closures, traffic bollards over the shop, crappy paint on the pavements that is completely ignored by the majority of people, wooden cabins which are empty more often than they are manned and people lounging about in hi-viz jackets doing nothing in particular. That's where my bastard council tax is going, apparently.

    As you may have guessed, I'm heartily sick of all this bollocks now and walking through the city centre every week day (which I need to do to get home from work) is not helping one iota. **** the council and their 'new normal', the twats. They've put up banners now saying 'Same 'Diff Only Safer.' That just about sums them up. Why they can't just let life gradually return to normal I don't know. They irritate the shit out of me.
    "the 'Diff". That's up there with "Chippy alley"..

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Everyone I've spoken to (about life in general, not about this particular dog's breakfast) would like things to return to some sort of normal as soon as possible. Everyone appreciates it's not going to happen overnight, but every step towards normality is a positive as far as I'm concerned.

    However, instead of helping to get the city centre back to normal, the twats at the council seem determined to do the opposite. Road closures, traffic bollards over the shop, crappy paint on the pavements that is completely ignored by the majority of people, wooden cabins which are empty more often than they are manned and people lounging about in hi-viz jackets doing nothing in particular. That's where my bastard council tax is going, apparently.

    As you may have guessed, I'm heartily sick of all this bollocks now and walking through the city centre every week day (which I need to do to get home from work) is not helping one iota. **** the council and their 'new normal', the twats. They've put up banners now saying 'Same 'Diff Only Safer.' That just about sums them up. Why they can't just let life gradually return to normal I don't know. They irritate the shit out of me.
    that's better

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    That is the point. They have intimated it will be ready for the end of July. just in time for businesses like pubs restaurants and cafes to allow customers inside again. you couldn't make it up!!

    As another poster said early in this thread, it is just another excuse to close castle street, which certain members of the council would dearly love to see closed permanently.
    It should be closed anyway.

    Went into Cardiff last Sunday.

    Quite pleasant.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    It should be closed anyway.

    Went into Cardiff last Sunday.

    Quite pleasant.

    Unless you’re being ironic, pray tell “how are the people in north Cardiff, Caerphilly or the valleys, supposed to access our wonderful train station, or invisible BUS STATION” ???

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Unless you’re being ironic, pray tell “how are the people in north Cardiff, Caerphilly or the valleys, supposed to access our wonderful train station, or invisible BUS STATION” ???
    How are people from the east of the city expected to get into the city at all. no trains, buses bolloxed and roads closed.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Unless you’re being ironic, pray tell “how are the people in north Cardiff, Caerphilly or the valleys, supposed to access our wonderful train station, or invisible BUS STATION” ???
    Drove from Caerphilly. No traffic, plenty of parking.

    Quick detour around the blind institute not a problem.

    Everyone friendly and lines easy to follow

    When the benches are there to enjoy the city i'll say well done Cardiff Council

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    QUOTE=WJ99mobile;5099548]Drove from Caerphilly. No traffic, plenty of parking.

    Quick detour around the blind institute not a problem.

    Everyone friendly and lines easy to follow

    When the benches are there to enjoy the city i'll say well done Cardiff Council[/QUOTE]


    But that’s not accessing the bus (to come) or train station, for an onward journey.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    I'm not quite sure what i think of the road closure or how sustainable it will be in the short term, or long term if the council are preparing us for a complete closure with no plans to open the road back up again. We certainly need much better public transport, cheap, regular and not for profit if CCC are going down this route (excuse pun) or park an ride schemes that offer real value-i'd be all for it then. So, to play devils advocate a little, consider this-Cardiff Castle is one of the most visited tourist attractions in Wales, wouldn't it be progressive for the council to offer tourists who bring in money, a more tranquil surrounding in order to take photos, relax and spend their money directly outside the castle on food, drink and souvenirs? A castle in the middle of a city is very unique although it seems to me that we aren't taking advantage of it in every respect.

    Castle ST is shitty, the shops on the front are ugly and disjointed, why not make it an area to be enjoyed and add to the value of the City? I'm pretty sure other Cities would have been all over pedestrianising the area adjacent to the castle in a way to make things more relaxed and in the hope that people with spare cash hang about and buy shit that they don't need and over inflated prices for poor food and drink-we've got to think like a capital City

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    It should be closed anyway.

    Went into Cardiff last Sunday.

    Quite pleasant.
    You clearly have no idea of how important a conduit it is if you honestly believe that.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    The op actually called the thread "Cardiff Council are killing the City" therefore the fate of Tramshed is extremely relevant
    Phew at last someone has explained it correctly ,centre v not centre moment .

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Well it's like any other major uk city really

    It seems to be seeing a gentle seepage of people but let's be honest here ......the city centre of cardiff is too congested for a city and hinterland of its size and the sooner we have a coordinated metro system the better
    Great idea

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    In the middle of a pandemic many people will have a strong preference for using their own car and won’t use buses or trains. The council needs to accept this and not use a public health emergency as an excuse to deter people travelling to the shops by car.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    The situation with the buses is genuinely disgraceful. Many are now departing from Greyfriars Road but there is no information either in the shelters or on the digital tickers as regards timetables or which bus leaves from which stop. I've seen plenty of people missing buses in recent weeks as a result, most commonly to destinations outside Cardiff such as Newport and Merthyr.

    This is a true story: early in the second week after the council had shut Castle Street, I managed to flag down an X8 bus on Greyfriars Road. It hadn't stopped properly on account of the fact that the driver said he didn't know where he was supposed to stop. I asked if he was going to Thornhill or the Bay. He asked me where I wanted to go. I said Thornhill. He said "Well we'll go to Thornhill then."

    On the journey he explained that it had been chaos since Castle Street was closed as the lack of notice and communication from the council meant that his office hadn't sorted out a proper new route for the X8 yet (the bus usually goes from Thornhill to the Bay and back via the city centre). Therefore, the drivers didn't really know where they were supposed to be going or when. It was nice to have a private bus ride back to my place, but it just about summed up the situation.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    The situation with the buses is genuinely disgraceful. Many are now departing from Greyfriars Road but there is no information either in the shelters or on the digital tickers as regards timetables or which bus leaves from which stop. I've seen plenty of people missing buses in recent weeks as a result, most commonly to destinations outside Cardiff such as Newport and Merthyr.

    This is a true story: early in the second week after the council had shut Castle Street, I managed to flag down an X8 bus on Greyfriars Road. It hadn't stopped properly on account of the fact that the driver said he didn't know where he was supposed to stop. I asked if he was going to Thornhill or the Bay. He asked me where I wanted to go. I said Thornhill. He said "Well we'll go to Thornhill then."

    On the journey he explained that it had been chaos since Castle Street was closed as the lack of notice and communication from the council meant that his office hadn't sorted out a proper new route for the X8 yet (the bus usually goes from Thornhill to the Bay and back via the city centre). Therefore, the drivers didn't really know where they were supposed to be going or when. It was nice to have a private bus ride back to my place, but it just about summed up the situation.
    You do realise other urban centres like Bristol and Birmingham have had issues with road closures , bus services and the painting of signs to make sure idiotic morons keep their distance

    Believe it or not it's not just your council tax in fecking cardiff that is being used in covid measures or not just your bus services that have been affected

    Jesus h christ

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You do realise other urban centres like Bristol and Birmingham have had issues with road closures , bus services and the painting of signs to make sure idiotic morons keep their distance

    Believe it or not it's not just your council tax in fecking cardiff that is being used in covid measures or not just your bus services that have been affected

    Jesus h christ
    But I don't give a toss about brizzle or anywhere else. I don't live there, I don't care if they ruin it.
    I care about Cardiff because it is my city, my home and I don't like seeing it wasted by the people who are supposed to take care of it.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    You do realise other urban centres like Bristol and Birmingham have had issues with road closures , bus services and the painting of signs to make sure idiotic morons keep their distance

    Believe it or not it's not just your council tax in fecking cardiff that is being used in covid measures or not just your bus services that have been affected
    I couldn't care less about Bristol or Birmingham right now. I live and work in Cardiff. You do neither, so shut the **** up.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I couldn't care less about Bristol or Birmingham right now. I live and work in Cardiff. You do neither, so shut the **** up.
    Back of the net!!!

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I couldn't care less about Bristol or Birmingham right now. I live and work in Cardiff. You do neither, so shut the **** up.
    Listen mr stumpy

    Did you vote in the last cardiff council elections

    I didnt because I dont live there

    I reckon you couldnt be arsed , yet like so many people just complain

    It doesnt matter where you live , cardiff , bristol , swansea blah blah blah people like you will always find something to moan about

    Why dont you learn to drive , you are a big boy now , you could share cars and even go to gigs on your own

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    But I don't give a toss about brizzle or anywhere else. I don't live there, I don't care if they ruin it.
    I care about Cardiff because it is my city, my home and I don't like seeing it wasted by the people who are supposed to take care of it.
    Vote them out then

    I am sure the tories will do a great job

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    The stealth closure of castle street is a scandal. I sure I read something about emissions targets ultimately being a driving factor. Never mind the fact that is now even harder to get across the city from west to east.

    And on that subject, we’ve only been waiting 30 or so years for them to finish the ring road. We’re overdue another gypsy wedding, about time rover way turned into a car park for a few days.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Vote them out then

    I am sure the tories will do a great job
    I’m not sure that anyone could really do any worse. Staggering incompetence.

    I’d go as far as saying that the LDP, on labours watch, wreaks of brown envelopes and corruption.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by stevebrickman View Post
    I’m not sure that anyone could really do any worse. Staggering incompetence.

    I’d go as far as saying that the LDP, on labours watch, wreaks of brown envelopes and corruption.
    I will put money on it a conservative controlled cardiff council will be a disaster

    Although most people wont vote in the council elections so if they do get in and feck things up it will be too late to complain

    My council is run by labour and independents , they paint arrows on the pavements too, to make sure people are not coughing and spluttering all over each other . But the same sort of people who were dying for the council to go into lock down are now saying let us do what we want etc etc on the very day the commons health select committee were told by a chief scientist that boris johnson was talking out of his arse when he said we would be over things by xmas

    In general councils are taking advice from the scientists , not boris thank feck , just because someone works and lives in a big city does not give them the right to do what they want when we are dealing with a pandemic .

    One of the posters on here was proclaiming the end of the world in april now it's all the councils fault .

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