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  1. #1

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    You were in an European City
    Ex European city , we've left .

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Ex European city , we've left .
    When?

  3. #3

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Ex European city , we've left .

    Hmmmm......Have a look at a map. We may have left the EU but the UK is still a part of the geographical area called Europe

  4. #4

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Hmmmm......Have a look at a map. We may have left the EU but the UK is still a part of the geographical area called Europe
    Give Cummings, Johnson (and Farage) time .

  5. #5

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Ex European city , we've left .
    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Mate have I got some news for you
    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    When?
    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Hmmmm......Have a look at a map. We may have left the EU but the UK is still a part of the geographical area called Europe

    Could Life on Mars & Delmbox, please inform me, as to what Continent we are now on then, as you think we are not part of Europe ?

  6. #6

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Could Life on Mars & Delmbox, please inform me, as to what Continent we are now on then, as you think we are not part of Europe ?
    Fine, a city that's part of the European Union then. Although I think we all knew I meant that didn't we, just that this thread's not going the way you want it to David and Gareth

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  7. #7

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    "Fine, a city that's part of the European Union then. Although I think we all knew I meant that didn't we, just that this thread's not going the way you want it to David and Gareth"

    It's become pointless, replying to posts in this thread (apart from this one attempting to be sarcastic), as peoples opinion on this subject, will not change.

    Lasts night ECHO, did a similar, building this "white elephant", up.

    Now, if waiting 30 minutes, for a sandwich & coffee (the order was wrong as well), is GOOD SERVICE, well blow me down and go for it.
    Sunny, it might work, (people can go inside pubs next week, who will they serve first ?), Hissing Sid down, it won't work.

    Enjoy you're turned up, dry bread sandwich & luke warm coffee

  8. #8

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Yup, they can all ****off and bore some poor young girl on minimum wage on how everything is shit these days and how they hate new bank notes....probably....
    Fecking pub bores

  9. #9

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    From now on I no longer support Cardiff City Football Club, I support Cardiff's City Outside Eating Area

  10. #10

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    From now on I no longer support Cardiff City Football Club, I support Cardiff's City Outside Eating Area
    Altogether now....
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    C..O..E..A’��

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    From now on I no longer support Cardiff City Football Club, I support Cardiff's City Outside Eating Area
    It'll be interesting to see what happens with all of the outside eating and drinking areas now that people can eat and drink inside if they so desire.

    Each working day I walk past Henry's on Park Place, usually mid to late afternoon. A few weeks back, when the pubs and restaurants were allowed to reopen but only serve people outside, there were plenty of people eating and drinking at the tables they'd set up outside. They were usually full or close to it. Occasionally, there were a few people queuing for tables. However, every day this week the outside tables have been completely empty. People have still been going there but are now having their food and drinks inside instead. I've never been in Henry's myself, but from the outside they seem to have plenty of room, so I guess social distancing isn't a major issue.

  12. #12

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    It'll be interesting to see what happens with all of the outside eating and drinking areas now that people can eat and drink inside if they so desire.

    Each working day I walk past Henry's on Park Place, usually mid to late afternoon. A few weeks back, when the pubs and restaurants were allowed to reopen but only serve people outside, there were plenty of people eating and drinking at the tables they'd set up outside. They were usually full or close to it. Occasionally, there were a few people queuing for tables. However, every day this week the outside tables have been completely empty. People have still been going there but are now having their food and drinks inside instead. I've never been in Henry's myself, but from the outside they seem to have plenty of room, so I guess social distancing isn't a major issue.
    I'm surprised people have been going inside, thought they'd be more nervous about that to be honest. Although I suppose the truly nervous wouldn't go out to eat at all.

    Also just so you know, I consider you the Bristol City to my beloved CCOEA. Bluetit's Swansea.

  13. #13

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    I'm surprised people have been going inside, thought they'd be more nervous about that to be honest. Although I suppose the truly nervous wouldn't go out to eat at all.
    The weather hasn't been great this week, although no different to the past couple of weeks when they were busy outside. When I was walking into Park Place from Queen Street on Monday and saw nobody sitting outside I assumed they'd had to close for some reason, but as I passed I saw there were several tables full of people eating inside. There hasn't been a single person sitting outside when I've passed Henry's this week and they've also taken down the parasols that were outside, although all of the seats and tables are still there (or were yesterday).

    As regards people being nervous, I went to a pub last Saturday afternoon for the first time since the lockdown - the Pantmawr in Rhiwbina. It was very busy and while the set-up was quite good, it's fair to say that very few people appeared to be carefully observing social distancing. Almost everyone seems to be a bit more respectful of other people's personal space these days, but in and around the pub the situation was definitely more relaxed than I'd expected.

    Meanwhile, the buses out of the city centre are definitely getting busier. Twice this week my bus home has been almost bang on the new capacity, which in effect is half full. Compare that to a couple of weeks ago, when it was a surprise if there were more than four or five people onboard. Masks are supposed to be mandatory, but that's not being enforced. The majority are wearing them, but some aren't including a few of the drivers.

  14. #14

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    The weather hasn't been great this week, although no different to the past couple of weeks when they were busy outside. When I was walking into Park Place from Queen Street on Monday and saw nobody sitting outside I assumed they'd had to close for some reason, but as I passed I saw there were several tables full of people eating inside. There hasn't been a single person sitting outside when I've passed Henry's this week and they've also taken down the parasols that were outside, although all of the seats and tables are still there (or were yesterday).

    As regards people being nervous, I went to a pub last Saturday afternoon for the first time since the lockdown - the Pantmawr in Rhiwbina. It was very busy and while the set-up was quite good, it's fair to say that very few people appeared to be carefully observing social distancing. Almost everyone seems to be a bit more respectful of other people's personal space these days, but in and around the pub the situation was definitely more relaxed than I'd expected.

    Meanwhile, the buses out of the city centre are definitely getting busier. Twice this week my bus home has been almost bang on the new capacity, which in effect is half full. Compare that to a couple of weeks ago, when it was a surprise if there were more than four or five people onboard. Masks are supposed to be mandatory, but that's not being enforced. The majority are wearing them, but some aren't including a few of the drivers.
    In my line of work we've been asked to "soft isolate" - to avoid being inside pubs and restaurants and general indoor gatherings if at all possible for the duration of the job (5 weeks). It's not mandatory but a request with the view of trying to avoid it getting shut down. I wonder if any other industries are asking similar

  15. #15

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    From now on I no longer support Cardiff City Football Club, I support Cardiff's City Outside Eating Area
    Its great on a summer's day like this, but could the CCOEA do it on a rainy night in Stoke ?

  16. #16

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    I finished work a little earlier than usual this afternoon, so I took a stroll up Castle Street to see what was happening at about 3:00pm. Two things surprised me about the outdoor-parasol-road area: firstly, how many people were sat there, and secondly, how few appeared to have any kind of food in front of them.

    Around half of the tables at the section closest to Queen Street were taken and maybe a third of the tables were full in the second part. That was certainly more than I expected. However, the only people I saw eating there were a young couple munching on boxes of noodles. A few other people had drinks of various descriptions in front of them, but nobody else had any food as far as I could see. One family of four appeared to be getting more than a little agitated with their situation. I'm guessing whatever they'd ordered was taking longer than they'd imagined to arrive.

    Meanwhile, four of the twelve tables were taken outside Henry's this afternoon. There were a few people inside, but not many from what I could see. It's warm today, see butt, innit?

    This is the Lone Gunman, Wales at Four Thirty, Cardiff.

    Over and out.

  17. #17

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I finished work a little earlier than usual this afternoon, so I took a stroll up Castle Street to see what was happening at about 3:00pm. Two things surprised me about the outdoor-parasol-road area: firstly, how many people were sat there, and secondly, how few appeared to have any kind of food in front of them.

    Around half of the tables at the section closest to Queen Street were taken and maybe a third of the tables were full in the second part. That was certainly more than I expected. However, the only people I saw eating there were a young couple munching on boxes of noodles. A few other people had drinks of various descriptions in front of them, but nobody else had any food as far as I could see. One family of four appeared to be getting more than a little agitated with their situation. I'm guessing whatever they'd ordered was taking longer than they'd imagined to arrive.

    Meanwhile, four of the twelve tables were taken outside Henry's this afternoon. There were a few people inside, but not many from what I could see. It's warm today, see butt, innit?

    This is the Lone Gunman, Wales at Four Thirty, Cardiff.

    Over and out.
    Sounds like the boys are having a tough day at the office but they'll stick together and work as a team and I'm confident that tomorrow food will be flying out. This was always going to be a tricky week when we're playing against the rain later on but it's a marathon not a sprint and I'm confident they'll give it their all

  18. #18

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Sounds like the boys are having a tough day at the office but they'll stick together and work as a team and I'm confident that tomorrow food will be flying out. This was always going to be a tricky week when we're playing against the rain later on but it's a marathon not a sprint and I'm confident they'll give it their all
    Only 3 tables being used in one section when I went past this afternoon. Disappointing to see TLG and Bluetit down there singing 'you're not busy any more', no need for that.

    I gather it's not part of the half price meal deal that's running Monday-Wednesday through August (I assume their meals are classed as deliveries) which is really going to affect its trade on those days. Saying that, there wasn't a queue on either section on Saturday afternoon which surprised me as it had been busier than an Etien Velikonja book signing the weekend before. I haven't seen much customer feedback about it yet, I'd be interested to see an article if it exists.

  19. #19

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loramski View Post
    Only 3 tables being used in one section when I went past this afternoon. Disappointing to see TLG and BLUETIT down there singing 'you're not busy any more', no need for that.

    I gather it's not part of the half price meal deal that's running Monday-Wednesday through August (I assume their meals are classed as deliveries) which is really going to affect its trade on those days. Saying that, there wasn't a queue on either section on Saturday afternoon which surprised me as it had been busier than an Etien Velikonja book signing the weekend before. I haven't seen much customer feedback about it yet, I'd be interested to see an article if it exists.
    Definitely not me, as my 27 bus-stop is to far away for me to struggle, in this heat, to WALK across our car free City. Now, if my bus stop was nearer, me and the Mrs, could order a turned up edges, Panini sandwich & cold coffee (we would have ordered hot coffee, but because of the 30 minute wait, it'll arrive iced).

    It's not for me, I would prefer an integrated TRANSPORT SYSTEM, across our City and not having visitors to our great City, being at a loss, as to where they can find a connecting bus, which isn't almost a three quarters of a mile, from the station.

    Hope everyone enjoys their turned up at the edges panini.

  20. #20

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Definitely not me, as my 27 bus-stop is to far away for me to struggle, in this heat, to WALK across our car free City. Now, if my bus stop was nearer, me and the Mrs, could order a turned up edges, Panini sandwich & cold coffee (we would have ordered hot coffee, but because of the 30 minute wait, it'll arrive iced).

    It's not for me, I would prefer an integrated TRANSPORT SYSTEM, across our City and not having visitors to our great City, being at a loss, as to where they can find a connecting bus, which isn't almost a three quarters of a mile, from the station.

    Hope everyone enjoys their turned up at the edges panini.
    We will, thanks Bluetit!

  21. #21

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Definitely not me, as my 27 bus-stop is to far away for me to struggle, in this heat, to WALK across our car free City. Now, if my bus stop was nearer, me and the Mrs, could order a turned up edges, Panini sandwich & cold coffee (we would have ordered hot coffee, but because of the 30 minute wait, it'll arrive iced).

    It's not for me, I would prefer an integrated TRANSPORT SYSTEM, across our City and not having visitors to our great City, being at a loss, as to where they can find a connecting bus, which isn't almost a three quarters of a mile, from the station.

    Hope everyone enjoys their turned up at the edges panini.
    O+

  22. #22

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    People forget that Cardiff hasn't had the funds put into it compared to some of the bigger cities, a realistic aim for an outdoor eating area our size is to make the best of the big sunny days and try and snatch a full table or two on the wet ones
    Some people seem really hopeful that this scheme fails, it seems to be those who moan about most things that don't suit their preferences or lifestyle choices. Very odd. I also think that they hate the local authority and I'd put a couple of quid on the chance that they hate the Welsh government as well.

  23. #23

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Some people seem really hopeful that this scheme fails......
    What would constitute success for this venture? And what would failure look like?

  24. #24

    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    What would constitute success for this venture? And what would failure look like?
    I suppose it should be objective as opposed to subjective, as it seems to be for some people, which i can understand to a certain degree. I do get the impression that those who think that it was a bad idea would be quite pleased if there were low turn out, poor service, maybe a bit of bother etc in order to reinforce their views on the council and wider political thoughts. That's just my opinion though-obviously.

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    Re: Cardiff Council are killing the City.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Some people seem really hopeful that this scheme fails, it seems to be those who moan about most things that don't suit their preferences or lifestyle choices. Very odd. I also think that they hate the local authority and I'd put a couple of quid on the chance that they hate the Welsh government as well.
    I’m not against having such an area, I think it’s a fine idea as a permanent thing, I Just object to the location and what that does to the public transport and the normal flow of traffic around and through the city.

    If they had put one in st Mary St and one in the Hayes they could stay there for ever for me, and there would probably then be enough seats for anyone to grab food from any city outlet and sit down and watch the world go by instead of being forced to buy food from outlets that have “signed up”
    As it is it is badly thought out and badly executed and I am convinced that certain elements of the council were more concerned with closing that street than making a nice area for pedestrians.
    With the grass outside outside the castle, St Mary Street the Hayes there is more than enough room to do what has been done and more. If ordinary people can see that why can’t the councillors who are paid an awful lot of money in expenses to take care of our lovely city?

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