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  1. #1

    How has it got to this?

    https://youtu.be/iGUGGgoEloM

    Last night in White city London.
    How can we have situations like this where riot police are having to retreat whilst having all sorts thrown at them, by cowardly arseholes covered up in hoodies.?

  2. #2

    Re: How has it got to this?

    but Black Lives Matter

  3. #3

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by alan_corneli View Post
    but Black Lives Matter
    Shut up you daft racist.

  4. #4

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Shut up you daft racist.
    I am NOT a racist. All I'm trying to say is, don't ALL lives matter.

  5. #5

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by alan_corneli View Post
    I am NOT a racist. All I'm trying to say is, don't ALL lives matter.
    Capital letters don’t hide your bigotry!

  6. #6

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by alan_corneli View Post
    I am NOT a racist. All I'm trying to say is, don't ALL lives matter.
    what's that, or black lives matter got to do with a thread about an illegal rave though?

  7. #7

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by alan_corneli View Post
    I am NOT a racist.
    Sure you're not. You've convinced me. It was obviously just a coincidence that you linked a disturbance at a party in West London to the Black Lives Matter movement.....

  8. #8

    Re: How has it got to this?

    doesnt look like a PSU in sight at the start, then it looks like a few arrived for the 2nd go

  9. #9

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by alan_corneli View Post
    but Black Lives Matter
    What's it got to do with the black lives matter protest ?

  10. #10

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    What's it got to do with the black lives matter protest ?
    I know it called white city , was it a predominantly a white party event then? I really at looked at it , as most of the black parties to be fair are in black communities in London ,and i do think black lives matter and I hope the organizers and attendees think the same .

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I know it called white city , was it a predominantly a white party event then? I really at looked at it , as most of the black parties to be fair are in black communities in London ,and i do think black lives matter and I hope the organizers and attendees think the same .
    The area now called White City was level arable farmfields until 1908, when it was used as the site of the Franco-British Exhibition and the 1908 Summer Olympics. In 1909 the exhibition site hosted the Imperial International Exhibition and in 1910, the Japan-British Exhibition. The final two exhibitions to be held there were the Latin-British Exhibition (1912) and the Anglo-American Exhibition (1914), which was brought to a premature end by the outbreak of the First World War.[2] During this period it was known as the Great White City due to the white marble cladding used on the exhibition pavilions, and hence gave its name to this part of Shepherd's Bush.

  12. #12

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    https://youtu.be/iGUGGgoEloM

    Last night in White city London.
    How can we have situations like this where riot police are having to retreat whilst having all sorts thrown at them, by cowardly arseholes covered up in hoodies.?
    Public order situations have always been like this

    The miners strike

    Football disorder

    Brixton , toxteth , st Paul's, Tottenham riots

    Ely riots in cardiff

    Not saying it's right and any person that is caught on camera throwing a missile is looking at a stretch but things have always been like this

    The last time this country really went up in smoke was 2011

  13. #13

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    How can we have situations like this where riot police are having to retreat whilst having all sorts thrown at them, by cowardly arseholes covered up in hoodies.?
    They're not riot police.

  14. #14

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    They're not riot police.
    Ok. But they are police. Is that an excuse for this sort of behaviour? You've got to be nuts to want to join the force In modern day UK. You're on a hiding to nothing from day one.

  15. #15

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Ok. But they are police. Is that an excuse for this sort of behaviour?
    Your heading says "how has it got to this?" as if the notion of a group of policemen backing away from a rowdy bunch of thugs is a new development.

    All I can imagine is you haven't been to many City away games over the years if you've never witnessed this sort of behaviour before.

  16. #16

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Your heading says "how has it got to this?" as if the notion of a group of policemen backing away from a rowdy bunch of thugs is a new development.

    All I can imagine is you haven't been to many City away games over the years if you've never witnessed this sort of behaviour before.
    Ok. You've dissected my thread title, and maybe rightly so, as i should have worded it better.
    So lets try this one. What is the answer to disgraceful situations like this, as they continue to happen.?
    P.s your quip about not being at many City away games is a moot point, as I've probably been to as many as you, if not more, as I'm older, but lets not dwell on that 😁

  17. #17

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    Ok. You've dissected my thread title, and maybe rightly so, as i should have worded it better.
    So lets try this one. What is the answer to disgraceful situations like this, as they continue to happen.?
    P.s your quip about not being at many City away games is a moot point, as I've probably been to as many as you, if not more, as I'm older, but lets not dwell on that 😁
    I meant to add, backing away is one thing, but having bricks and missiles thrown at you as you are backing away is both idiotic total lawlessness. Whats the answer to it?

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    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I meant to add, backing away is one thing, but having bricks and missiles thrown at you as you are backing away is both idiotic total lawlessness. Whats the answer to it?
    I don’t suppose there is an answer, throughout history some folk behave and some people act like dicks, it’s nothing new, doubt it’ll ever change.

  19. #19

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I meant to add, backing away is one thing, but having bricks and missiles thrown at you as you are backing away is both idiotic total lawlessness. Whats the answer to it?
    I'm 53 years of age. I first became aware of incidents like this in the mid-Seventies when I was about 7 or 8. They have been happening ever since, whether it be at football matches, demonstrations, raves or pretty much any other kind of public gathering.

    What's the answer? I've no idea. Human beings are idiotic, violent, destructive creatures. Always have been and I'd guess we always will be.

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    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I meant to add, backing away is one thing, but having bricks and missiles thrown at you as you are backing away is both idiotic total lawlessness. Whats the answer to it?
    Are you suggesting it's worse than it has ever been?

  21. #21

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Are you suggesting it's worse than it has ever been?
    FFS!!!! Whats the matter with folk like you Eric. You're always trying to be argumentative.
    Im not suggesting anything.
    What i am saying, is once again, we see scenes like last night( maybe we are seeing it more now because of members of the public filming it and downloading it), and once again the mindless participants are ruling the streets.
    Why don't you try to think of a solution, or some sort of compromise, or some positive input instead of being the usual smart arse you come across as?

  22. #22

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    FFS!!!! Whats the matter with folk like you Eric. You're always trying to be argumentative. Im not suggesting anything.
    Methinks thou doth protest too much.

    You're having a bit of a 'mare in this thread. You started by asking a stupid question while presenting this situation as a new development, which it obviously isn't. It's the sort of thing that's been going on for decades. So what was your motivation, I wonder? Very curious.

  23. #23

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    FFS!!!! Whats the matter with folk like you Eric. You're always trying to be argumentative.
    Im not suggesting anything.
    What i am saying, is once again, we see scenes like last night( maybe we are seeing it more now because of members of the public filming it and downloading it), and once again the mindless participants are ruling the streets.
    Why don't you try to think of a solution, or some sort of compromise, or some positive input instead of being the usual smart arse you come across as?
    It was a genuine question. I was curious to find out if you felt things were getting more out of control or whether things are just the same as they always have been, where unfortunately riots do occur from time to time. TLG's response about humans being idiotic, violent creatures (some anyway) summed things up perfectly. What can be done about it? Not a lot.

  24. #24

    Re: How has it got to this?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    I meant to add, backing away is one thing, but having bricks and missiles thrown at you as you are backing away is both idiotic total lawlessness. Whats the answer to it?
    Better police training and equipment, our "riot police" couldn't handle a proper riot

  25. #25

    Re: How has it got to this?

    when you come out of loftus road and they send you right , there's always a welcoming mob appear from the estate on your right...that's where it all kicked off yesterday

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