British Sprinter And Her Black Boyfriend Stopped By The Police .....

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

[QUOTE=TISS;5095665]you've misunderstood. I wasn't suggesting you had made the accusation, i was merely stating that if you want to make (another) accusation, just come out and say it.

I havnt misunderstood at all , on the bbc news tonight it was reported the mother was kept from her baby for 45 minutes , why would they mention that ? I dont think if that's correct that they were feeding it to the wolves but it's a bit odd

i'm a father of three, why would I not be able to make comment on how i'd react whilst holding a baby?

You are not a mother , mothers will do anything to protect their children , its animal instinct

you've still skirted the issue, how do you propose arresting a person holding an infant?

She wasnt being arrested , according to the female officer she was being detained for the purposes of a search . What on earth does someone with a baby , in the back seat of a car , need to be handcuffed for in order to search her ? There were 3 female officers there

having watched the video, perhaps you can explain why this woman, with child in arms, felt it necessary to exit her vehicle? Before she exited the car, the police had zero interest in her. As another poster has pointed out, you desperately want this to be an issue of race. It may well be, but we should leave it to those with the full facts to form that

The people with the full facts to form the opinion that it may or may not be an issue of race are not necessarily the police

As for her if shes proved to be a liar I will have no sympathy with her

[Feedback]

trust me sludge, you have misunderstood. the crux of my question wasn't about who/what first mentioned the mother had been separated from baby for 45 minutes...i was asking you since you said it needed looking into, whether you were implying something more sinister was afoot.

when i said she was arrested, i meant handcuffed. My bad. The point still stands. She exited the vehicle, the police did not open the door of the car.

NB yes mothers have instincts to protect their children, so do fathers. That's quite an absurdity even for you.

we're going over old ground here so there is little further to add. lets just leave it to the powers that be to investigate further.

[Whisperer]

Another murder in Maida Vale this morning.

[Whisperer]

Yet another murder in Harlesden in the early hours of this morning. Met police reports 75% of murders this year are BAME and will carry on with their stop and search policy. So I will say once more these two athletes should have just got out of their car when pulled over and thought about the bigger picture.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Yet another murder in Harlesden in the early hours of this morning. Met police reports 75% of murders this year are BAME and will carry on with their stop and search policy. So I will say once more these two athletes should have just got out of their car when pulled over and thought about the bigger picture.

Well at the moment your views and mine are irrelevant to this particular stop

She has said her and her partner were stopped because they were black which is unlawful

The met appear to have referred the matter to the as near as we can get to independent police watchdog

If it is found it was a racially motivated stop then I doubt anything will be done

However if this woman is proved to have been a liar I wont have any sympathy with her and she will have done BAME people no good whatsoever

[blue matt]

Well at the moment your views and mine are irrelevant to this particular stop

She has said her and her partner were stopped because they were black which is unlawful

The met appear to have referred the matter to the as near as we can get to independent police watchdog

If it is found it was a racially motivated stop then I doubt anything will be done

However if this woman is proved to have been a liar I wont have any sympathy with her and she will have done BAME people no good whatsoever

wasnt the police vehicle behind the car in question ? ? ? if so, how would the police have seen they were black ? ?

[Vindec]

Well at the moment your views and mine are irrelevant to this particular stop

She has said her and her partner were stopped because they were black which is unlawful

The met appear to have referred the matter to the as near as we can get to independent police watchdog

If it is found it was a racially motivated stop then I doubt anything will be done

However if this woman is proved to have been a liar I wont have any sympathy with her and she will have done BAME people no good whatsoever

Well said Sludge. Welcome to the World of being reasonable and unbiased. Wait for the evidence to emerge and base conclusions on it is precisely the way forward.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

wasnt the police vehicle behind the car in question ? ? ? if so, how would the police have seen they were black ? ?

Well we will soon find out , wont we , assuming this apparently independent watchdog does its job

[life on mars]

wasnt the police vehicle behind the car in question ? ? ? if so, how would the police have seen they were black ? ?

Indeed and reportedly the car driven eradicatly, in an area and street that sees knife crime as a hobby ,sadly BAME do commit these crimes, the question is how do your police a predominantly black area, with predominantly black crime with many carrying lethal weapon such as knives.

As Dorian Lawrence eloquently says

""We [the black community] are turning on ourselves and I have no idea what causes that. There’s a lot more work that needs to go into understanding where those young people are coming from - there’s a combination of contributing factors and everybody has their part to play in all of this.”

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Indeed and reportedly the car driven eradicatly, in an area and street that sees knife crime as a hobby ,sadly BAME do commit these crimes, the question is how do your police a predominantly black area, with predominantly black crime with many carrying lethal weapon such as knives.

As Dorian Lawrence eloquently says

""We [the black community] are turning on ourselves and I have no idea what causes that. There’s a lot more work that needs to go into understanding where those young people are coming from - there’s a combination of contributing factors and everybody has their part to play in all of this.”

Including the police

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BBC News - Officer suspended over 'kneeling on neck' during arrest
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53443641

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Well said Sludge. Welcome to the World of being reasonable and unbiased. Wait for the evidence to emerge and base conclusions on it is precisely the way forward.

BBC News - Officer suspended over 'kneeling on neck' during arrest
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53443641

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BBC News - Officer suspended over 'kneeling on neck' during arrest
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53443641

Why have you quoted me?

[life on mars]

Why have you quoted me?

Whats wrong with some people, they have seen what's happened in USA and they do the same unbelievable, surely they just restrain him normally.

Really wish these folk wouldn't commit crimes , we could step the police down and live happily ever after

[jeepster]

Whats wrong with some people, they have seen what's happened in USA and they do the same unbelievable, surely they just restrain him normally.

Really wish these folk wouldn't commit crimes , we could step the police down and live happily ever after

These folk do you mean black? crimes have been commited even before blacks were transported here.

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Whats wrong with some people, they have seen what's happened in USA and they do the same unbelievable, surely they just restrain him normally.

Really wish these folk wouldn't commit crimes , we could step the police down and live happily ever after

Well the issue here is that a bloke is on the floor , under control yet the police are kneeling on his neck and hes saying he cant breathe

It doesnt look good given recent events

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Why have you quoted me?

Because this appears to be an example of police brutality , kneeling on the neck of a man under arrest, so soon after all the recent events , two police officers are in trouble it seems

What are your views now ?

[Vindec]

Because this appears to be an example of police brutality , kneeling on the neck of a man under arrest, so soon after all the recent events , two police officers are in trouble it seems

What are your views now ?

As I have said repeatedly we should wait for the evidence before reaching conclusions so I still don't get why you quoted me as I haven't once defended the Police. On this latest occasion the Police appeared to act extremely inappropriately especially in the current climate. Apparently a knee on the neck (quite rightly) is not a Police trained technique. I'm not defending the Police. All I have stated all along is let's wait for the facts to emerge before rushing to judgement which is what you seemed to have come around to stating in your penultimate post in relation to the earlier incident.

All we know at this stage is that the Police apprehended a black man inappropriately carrying a knife and the Police action, on the face of it, was very disturbing. I agree it doesn't look good. Of course we do not know what happened before the man was apprehended. Let's wait and see.