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    Return to Smallsville

    Just back after visiting my son & fiance in Bishops Stortford for a few days. It's difficult to convey in words just how life and attitudes are there , [ or 'over the border' as it's now referred to.].

    The place was bustling. cafes open, restaurants busy, shops busy, pubs open and full, everyone happy - but mindful of respecting other people's space. People I met and spoke to are looking for every opportunity to get moving as quickly as possible.

    Then back here. M4 relief road cancelled for 'environmental reasons'. Firms not bringing jobs because of it. An administration doing everything in it's power to differentiate from England and UK. Almost rejoicing in their grim, depressing, relentless droning about how they'll do it 'our way'. And what's more, pretty much everyone in Wales backing them.

    I'm Welsh, but were I 10yrs younger would seriously consider moving 'over the border'..

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    The Promised Land here, innit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The Promised Land here, innit?
    Not for another 1500+ who have lost their jobs here today. Then again Wales has today been the 1st nation to introduce bike passing distance signs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Not for another 1500+ who have lost their jobs here today. Then again Wales has today been the 1st nation to introduce bike passing distance signs.
    I was being less than serious, old fruit. It's too early to know if the more relaxed approach to opening up in England will end up in tears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    The place was bustling. cafes open, restaurants busy, shops busy, pubs open and full, everyone happy - but mindful of respecting other people's space. People I met and spoke to are looking for every opportunity to get moving as quickly as possible.
    Are you saying everyone's not unemployed already?

    I'm amazed.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Just back after visiting my son & fiance in Bishops Stortford for a few days. It's difficult to convey in words just how life and attitudes are there , [ or 'over the border' as it's now referred to.].

    The place was bustling. cafes open, restaurants busy, shops busy, pubs open and full, everyone happy - but mindful of respecting other people's space. People I met and spoke to are looking for every opportunity to get moving as quickly as possible.

    Then back here. M4 relief road cancelled for 'environmental reasons'. Firms not bringing jobs because of it. An administration doing everything in it's power to differentiate from England and UK. Almost rejoicing in their grim, depressing, relentless droning about how they'll do it 'our way'. And what's more, pretty much everyone in Wales backing them.

    I'm Welsh, but were I 10yrs younger would seriously consider moving 'over the border'..
    You could always move....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    You could always move....
    He can't - He's 10 years older than you have to be to consider it.

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    Did you know driving 50mph up a dual carriageway for about 4 miles can single handedly save the environment? Or me.

    Or that few mile stretch through Newport, that you still have to do 50 through even though there's not a single car on the road (they turn them off the other side in Bristol at night, I know as I've tutted too many times under my Breath now..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Did you know driving 50mph up a dual carriageway for about 4 miles can single handedly save the environment? Or me.

    Or that few mile stretch through Newport, that you still have to do 50 through even though there's not a single car on the road (they turn them off the other side in Bristol at night, I know as I've tutted too many times under my Breath now..)
    Must have left one of them on over the border last year, I got done about 2am doing 60 on the M5 going past Bristol (the Bridge was closed) after picking someone up from Bristol airport, must have known I was Welsh!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Just back after visiting my son & fiance in Bishops Stortford for a few days. It's difficult to convey in words just how life and attitudes are there , [ or 'over the border' as it's now referred to.].

    The place was bustling. cafes open, restaurants busy, shops busy, pubs open and full, everyone happy - but mindful of respecting other people's space. People I met and spoke to are looking for every opportunity to get moving as quickly as possible.

    Then back here. M4 relief road cancelled for 'environmental reasons'. Firms not bringing jobs because of it. An administration doing everything in it's power to differentiate from England and UK. Almost rejoicing in their grim, depressing, relentless droning about how they'll do it 'our way'. And what's more, pretty much everyone in Wales backing them.

    I'm Welsh, but were I 10yrs younger would seriously consider moving 'over the border'..
    If you need help with the train fare I am happy to set up an appeal fund

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Must have left one of them on over the border last year, I got done about 2am doing 60 on the M5 going past Bristol (the Bridge was closed) after picking someone up from Bristol airport, must have known I was Welsh!!
    That's some bad luck. They've always been off for me, although not often I'm lucky enough to pass at 2am.

    I understand them through the Brynglass tunnels at peak times, but when the roads are dead they're pointless, unless it's an environmental reason? Then of so why just that part of the road?

    Also, idiots on the a470 southbound into Cardiff.. the cameras stop just past upper boat and there's a glorious sign allowing you to drive 70mph. Saw a ****ing lorry pull out in front of someone today (limited to 56 aren't they?) through the 70 (60 for vans) part of the a470.. them cameras won't catch you there Karen..

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    I appreciate the record in Wales is also very poor but I’m intrigued why in the middle of a global pandemic in a country with one of the most appalling records of excess avoidable deaths and with an unfit for purpose testing and tracing system and with a perilously high R rate that lots of people sitting together inside full pubs would be considered a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    I appreciate the record in Wales is also very poor but I’m intrigued why in the middle of a global pandemic in a country with one of the most appalling records of excess avoidable deaths and with an unfit for purpose testing and tracing system and with a perilously high R rate that lots of people sitting together inside full pubs would be considered a good thing.
    People aren't 'sitting together'. As I said they're mindful of others. It's a question of attitude. Yours is typical here in Wales. In England they're just more positive and getting on with things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    People aren't 'sitting together'. As I said they're mindful of others. It's a question of attitude. Yours is typical here in Wales. In England they're just more positive and getting on with things.
    I'm not sure a town the size of Bridgend is representative of all of England

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    It's a question of attitude. Yours is typical here in Wales. In England they're just more positive and getting on with things.
    Does that include the good people of Leicester?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Does that include the good people of Leicester?
    On first minister's Questions this week someone asked Drakeford about the money offereed by the UK Government and could it be used to fund the alternative if one was found.
    He said (quite rudely) 'I've pot no idea where the member gets this information from. the UK government hasn't offered any money, never has offered any money and will not offer any money. It's a figment of your imagination"

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    On first minister's Questions this week someone asked Drakeford about the money offereed by the UK Government and could it be used to fund the alternative if one was found.
    He said (quite rudely) 'I've pot no idea where the member gets this information from. the UK government hasn't offered any money, never has offered any money and will not offer any money. It's a figment of your imagination"
    I've got no idea what you're talking about. Neither do I care. I voted against the Welsh Assembly and I am opposed to devolution. I think Drakeford's a bellend. However, I also think Monkfish's comments about positive attitudes are laughable considering he's been veering between doom-monger and drama queen for much of the last three months.

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    Re: Return to Smallsville

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    People aren't 'sitting together'. As I said they're mindful of others. It's a question of attitude. Yours is typical here in Wales. In England they're just more positive and getting on with things.
    They're more positive in England because you're in Wales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    It's a question of attitude. Yours is typical here in Wales. In England they're just more positive and getting on with things.
    "How can you not permit people into a stadium because of social distancing guidelines/rules, whilst allowing 30 footballers, support staff etc. to be as close as physically possible?" (AQM, 17/04/20)

    "If social distancing is still in place then how can footballers, staff, etc avoid contact - one rule for one, one rule for another isn't going to go down well. Secondly, by the end of the year there'll be no sponsorship in football. Even if my first point is overcome, no-one is going to pay to watch football played behind closed doors. I doubt any club could pay wages. The only people working will be those in the public sector, and who will be paying them? For those not working - prob 5-6 million, and those furloughed, paying a monthly fee to watch pampered players stroll around an empty ground isn't really going to happen either." (AQM, 23/04/20)

    "You'd have to test anything up to 200 each game. If someone comes back positive after a game you would have to restrict both teams for more testing, and waiting, and teams they are going to play, and them, and so on. Having a few thousand people travelling everywhere throughout England and Wales every 3-4 days could probably be one of the worst options." (AQM, 23/04/20)

    "The so-called Premier League start up behind closed doors is fraught with problems, and I suspect will draw objections from all areas of society." (AQM, 30/04/20)

    "The 'new normal' - the government locks the people up whenever they consider it's in the public interest." (AQM, 28/05/20)

    A Quiet Monkfish - unerringly positive throughout the Covid-19 pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Just back after visiting my son & fiance in Bishops Stortford for a few days. It's difficult to convey in words just how life and attitudes are there , [ or 'over the border' as it's now referred to.].

    The place was bustling. cafes open, restaurants busy, shops busy, pubs open and full, everyone happy - but mindful of respecting other people's space. People I met and spoke to are looking for every opportunity to get moving as quickly as possible.

    Then back here. M4 relief road cancelled for 'environmental reasons'. Firms not bringing jobs because of it. An administration doing everything in it's power to differentiate from England and UK. Almost rejoicing in their grim, depressing, relentless droning about how they'll do it 'our way'. And what's more, pretty much everyone in Wales backing them.

    I'm Welsh, but were I 10yrs younger would seriously consider moving 'over the border'..
    I’ve just travelled back from visiting the kid I’d denied being his old man for years but had to pay the little sods mother her last CSA payment and curiosity got the better of me.

    Anyway, I’ve digressed, back to my original point.

    Leicester is about as vibrant as Abertillery is in November but hasn’t got the range of betting shops.

    What’s happened in Leicester that’s it’s so different to Bishop Stortford?

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    The M4 Relief Road is mentioned in the earlier post. Has it really been cancelled? I travel to Cardiff on many Saturdays and find the traffic on the M4 westbound can back up as far as Magor. Surely the Welsh Government aren't that stupid not to deal with this bottleneck given the effect this must have on economic growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    The M4 Relief Road is mentioned in the earlier post. Has it really been cancelled? I travel to Cardiff on many Saturdays and find the traffic on the M4 westbound can back up as far as Magor. Surely the Welsh Government aren't that stupid not to deal with this bottleneck given the effect this must have on economic growth.
    During Wednesday's Prime Minister's Questions, he repeated his previous suggestion that the UK government would "unblock the Brynglas tunnels" with a "proper M4 bypass".

    But with road building in Plaid Cymru's Liz Saville Roberts said Mr Johnson had shown "complete ignorance of how devolution works and for the environment too for that matter".

    When asked about the prime minister's comments, Mr Hart acknowledged "it is a devolved matter, it is a matter for Welsh Government to do that".

    "UK government has said it would provide the borrowing facilities, the ability to do that. But consistently Welsh Government have declined that offer and so we are at that rather stalemate period."Wales the responsibility of the Welsh Government in Cardiff, a spokesperson said Mr Johnson could not have a say on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    During Wednesday's Prime Minister's Questions, he repeated his previous suggestion that the UK government would "unblock the Brynglas tunnels" with a "proper M4 bypass".

    But with road building in Plaid Cymru's Liz Saville Roberts said Mr Johnson had shown "complete ignorance of how devolution works and for the environment too for that matter".

    When asked about the prime minister's comments, Mr Hart acknowledged "it is a devolved matter, it is a matter for Welsh Government to do that".

    "UK government has said it would provide the borrowing facilities, the ability to do that. But consistently Welsh Government have declined that offer and so we are at that rather stalemate period."Wales the responsibility of the Welsh Government in Cardiff, a spokesperson said Mr Johnson could not have a say on it.
    It's almost like they knew it was a devolved issue before they fired off their free shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOZZER2 View Post
    He probably thought based on the OP that it had been cancelled in the last couple of days whilst he was away in England rather than 13 months ago.

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