Clive Tyldesley

[splott parker]

Sounds pretty plausible to me tbh

Of course it’s plausible, as if someone would commentate on a live Saturday afternoon game for the whole 90 odd minutes live (why would they need to?) then that commentary would be used 24 hours later for half hour of highlights, the continuity would be all over the place. The skill of the commentator would be commentating ‘as live’ in the abbreviated game and not going down the smug, football genius road.

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Of course it’s plausible, as if someone would commentate on a live Saturday afternoon game for the whole 90 odd minutes live (why would they need to?) then that commentary would be used 24 hours later for half hour of highlights, the continuity would be all over the place. The skill of the commentator would be commentating ‘as live’ in the abbreviated game and not going down the smug, football genius road.

Yeah I kind of assumed they were doing something like you said

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Of course it’s plausible, as if someone would commentate on a live Saturday afternoon game for the whole 90 odd minutes live (why would they need to?) then that commentary would be used 24 hours later for half hour of highlights, the continuity would be all over the place. The skill of the commentator would be commentating ‘as live’ in the abbreviated game and not going down the smug, football genius road.

I know that Match of the Day send their commentators to the grounds. They also record the crowd audio without commentary in case anything needs amending after the game. There are some commentators, like Pearce and Wilson, who apparently will not edit their commentaries after the game and want their authentic, as-it-happens-live versions broadcast.

[Joe Gillis]

Classic David Coleman...
Liverpool showing their party-pieces, Newcastle were undressed.

[Optimistic Nick]

Classic David Coleman...
Liverpool showing their party-pieces, Newcastle were undressed.

A touch of class in an otherwise tawdry thread.

Pretty much anybody involved in the presentation of football today has a personal interest in selling the game as a commercial product, rather than reporting on it as a sporting event. To my mind, Coleman does not fall into this camp. He was a sports enthusiast who could accurately convey the magnitude of an event. I doubt he would have over-sold the importance of Leicester vs West Ham.

Tyldesely is a reasonable commentator, with a tendency for hyperbole and nostalgia. He fairly accurately describes what is happening in a manner that is irritating rather than obtrusive, a la Jonathan Pierce. It is bizarre that he genuinely believes that anybody cares about a minor internal reorganisation of roles. He will presumably retire in the next few years and most football fans won't notice: he is nothing special, nothing terrible. That twitter clip belies a narcissism that I'd not really noticed before in a commentator other than the Moron In The Sheepskin Coat, or the uniquely appalling Alan Green.

Lots of really good sports presenters/commentators/journalists have lost their jobs in the last few years, so this daft tit whinging about him being second-best but still employed really rankles. Cornelius Lysaght and Mark Pougatch are two that spring to mind- far more insightful and offer far more to their sports than the mediocre, forgettable game-calling of Tyldesley.

Clive, give your retirement speech when you retire and just say thanks for sending me to games I had no real right to be at. Daft twat.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

A touch of class in an otherwise tawdry thread.

Pretty much anybody involved in the presentation of football today has a personal interest in selling the game as a commercial product, rather than reporting on it as a sporting event. To my mind, Coleman does not fall into this camp. He was a sports enthusiast who could accurately convey the magnitude of an event. I doubt he would have over-sold the importance of Leicester vs West Ham.

Tyldesely is a reasonable commentator, with a tendency for hyperbole and nostalgia. He fairly accurately describes what is happening in a manner that is irritating rather than obtrusive, a la Jonathan Pierce. It is bizarre that he genuinely believes that anybody cares about a minor internal reorganisation of roles. He will presumably retire in the next few years and most football fans won't notice: he is nothing special, nothing terrible. That twitter clip belies a narcissism that I'd not really noticed before in a commentator other than the Moron In The Sheepskin Coat, or the uniquely appalling Alan Green.

Lots of really good sports presenters/commentators/journalists have lost their jobs in the last few years, so this daft tit whinging about him being second-best but still employed really rankles. Cornelius Lysaght and Mark Pougatch are two that spring to mind- far more insightful and offer far more to their sports than the mediocre, forgettable game-calling of Tyldesley.

Clive, give your retirement speech when you retire and just say thanks for sending me to games I had no real right to be at. Daft twat.

Kept nodding throughout that.

In addition, I think that Sky introduced and developed that selling of football during commentary. Along came the regular hyperbole that never happened before. People believed they were getting something far better than they were used to.

Tyler is dreadful for this "AND IT'S LIVE", though he has a great way of putting images into words. He needs to retire in the next year or so though. Parry has been demoted to Championship and he needs shifting as well. Nobody else at Sky deserves to be a regular in the hot seat, so it'll be interesting to see what happens there.

Hope Sky don't get Mowbray. I don't rate him. Steve Wilson is a very good commentator, I also like Simon Brotherton, but there aren't many coming through that deserve top billing at Sky. Peter Drury would be my shout.

[Optimistic Nick]

Kept nodding throughout that.

In addition, I think that Sky introduced and developed that selling of football during commentary. Along came the regular hyperbole that never happened before. People believed they were getting something far better than they were used to.

Tyler is dreadful for this "AND IT'S LIVE", though he has a great way of putting images into words. He needs to retire in the next year or so though. Parry has been demoted to Championship and he needs shifting as well. Nobody else at Sky deserves to be a regular in the hot seat, so it'll be interesting to see what happens there.

Hope Sky don't get Mowbray. I don't rate him. Steve Wilson is a very good commentator, I also like Simon Brotherton, but there aren't many coming through that deserve top billing at Sky. Peter Drury would be my shout.

Oh, Sky are the source of many evils. So my suggestion is: just get rid of them. I did, over a decade ago. As a result I am less informed about modern football than many, but I can spot a snakeoil salesman when he comes knocking. And most of those gurning twats staring back at you from their overblown coverage fit that category.

[CCFCC3PO]

Oh, Sky are the source of many evils. So my suggestion is: just get rid of them. I did, over a decade ago. As a result I am less informed about modern football than many, but I can spot a snakeoil salesman when he comes knocking. And most of those gurning twats staring back at you from their overblown coverage fit that category.

Ditching Sky is the best decision we ever took. £70 a month by the time I quit it. Replaced by Netflix for £12 a month. 44

To get Sky Sports, you have to take out the Entertainment package. You want a specific channel, that's a different package. I occasionally invest in Now TV it was £200 for the season, split with my partner and a work colleague, about £70 each. Hadn't watched Sky Sports for 3/4 years, it is irritating when you realise that their main agenda is to overhype everything they cover so can't see us making the same decision for next season.

[CCFCC3PO]

Kept nodding throughout that.

In addition, I think that Sky introduced and developed that selling of football during commentary. Along came the regular hyperbole that never happened before. People believed they were getting something far better than they were used to.

Tyler is dreadful for this "AND IT'S LIVE", though he has a great way of putting images into words. He needs to retire in the next year or so though. Parry has been demoted to Championship and he needs shifting as well. Nobody else at Sky deserves to be a regular in the hot seat, so it'll be interesting to see what happens there.

Hope Sky don't get Mowbray. I don't rate him. Steve Wilson is a very good commentator, I also like Simon Brotherton, but there aren't many coming through that deserve top billing at Sky. Peter Drury would be my shout.

Tyler is almost certainly told to do the "AND IT'S LIVE", and I get the sense a few of the co-commentators are fed lines so that they will sound great in the future.