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  1. #1

    Re: Clive Tyldesley

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Where did you see this?

    Can't find anything on a quick look on the net.

    Disagree anyway. Heard him many times live didn't find him wanting at all.
    Yeah, this sounds a bit odd.

    Did he really do that? 🤷*♂️

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    Re: Clive Tyldesley

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    Yeah, this sounds a bit odd.

    Did he really do that? ��*♂️
    Sounds pretty plausible to me tbh

  3. #3

    Re: Clive Tyldesley

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    Sounds pretty plausible to me tbh
    Of course it’s plausible, as if someone would commentate on a live Saturday afternoon game for the whole 90 odd minutes live (why would they need to?) then that commentary would be used 24 hours later for half hour of highlights, the continuity would be all over the place. The skill of the commentator would be commentating ‘as live’ in the abbreviated game and not going down the smug, football genius road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Of course it’s plausible, as if someone would commentate on a live Saturday afternoon game for the whole 90 odd minutes live (why would they need to?) then that commentary would be used 24 hours later for half hour of highlights, the continuity would be all over the place. The skill of the commentator would be commentating ‘as live’ in the abbreviated game and not going down the smug, football genius road.
    Yeah I kind of assumed they were doing something like you said

  5. #5

    Re: Clive Tyldesley

    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Of course it’s plausible, as if someone would commentate on a live Saturday afternoon game for the whole 90 odd minutes live (why would they need to?) then that commentary would be used 24 hours later for half hour of highlights, the continuity would be all over the place. The skill of the commentator would be commentating ‘as live’ in the abbreviated game and not going down the smug, football genius road.
    I know that Match of the Day send their commentators to the grounds. They also record the crowd audio without commentary in case anything needs amending after the game. There are some commentators, like Pearce and Wilson, who apparently will not edit their commentaries after the game and want their authentic, as-it-happens-live versions broadcast.

  6. #6

    Re: Clive Tyldesley

    Classic David Coleman...
    Liverpool showing their party-pieces, Newcastle were undressed.

  7. #7

    Re: Clive Tyldesley

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Gillis View Post
    Classic David Coleman...
    Liverpool showing their party-pieces, Newcastle were undressed.
    A touch of class in an otherwise tawdry thread.

    Pretty much anybody involved in the presentation of football today has a personal interest in selling the game as a commercial product, rather than reporting on it as a sporting event. To my mind, Coleman does not fall into this camp. He was a sports enthusiast who could accurately convey the magnitude of an event. I doubt he would have over-sold the importance of Leicester vs West Ham.

    Tyldesely is a reasonable commentator, with a tendency for hyperbole and nostalgia. He fairly accurately describes what is happening in a manner that is irritating rather than obtrusive, a la Jonathan Pierce. It is bizarre that he genuinely believes that anybody cares about a minor internal reorganisation of roles. He will presumably retire in the next few years and most football fans won't notice: he is nothing special, nothing terrible. That twitter clip belies a narcissism that I'd not really noticed before in a commentator other than the Moron In The Sheepskin Coat, or the uniquely appalling Alan Green.

    Lots of really good sports presenters/commentators/journalists have lost their jobs in the last few years, so this daft tit whinging about him being second-best but still employed really rankles. Cornelius Lysaght and Mark Pougatch are two that spring to mind- far more insightful and offer far more to their sports than the mediocre, forgettable game-calling of Tyldesley.

    Clive, give your retirement speech when you retire and just say thanks for sending me to games I had no real right to be at. Daft twat.

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    Re: Clive Tyldesley

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimistic Nick View Post
    A touch of class in an otherwise tawdry thread.

    Pretty much anybody involved in the presentation of football today has a personal interest in selling the game as a commercial product, rather than reporting on it as a sporting event. To my mind, Coleman does not fall into this camp. He was a sports enthusiast who could accurately convey the magnitude of an event. I doubt he would have over-sold the importance of Leicester vs West Ham.

    Tyldesely is a reasonable commentator, with a tendency for hyperbole and nostalgia. He fairly accurately describes what is happening in a manner that is irritating rather than obtrusive, a la Jonathan Pierce. It is bizarre that he genuinely believes that anybody cares about a minor internal reorganisation of roles. He will presumably retire in the next few years and most football fans won't notice: he is nothing special, nothing terrible. That twitter clip belies a narcissism that I'd not really noticed before in a commentator other than the Moron In The Sheepskin Coat, or the uniquely appalling Alan Green.

    Lots of really good sports presenters/commentators/journalists have lost their jobs in the last few years, so this daft tit whinging about him being second-best but still employed really rankles. Cornelius Lysaght and Mark Pougatch are two that spring to mind- far more insightful and offer far more to their sports than the mediocre, forgettable game-calling of Tyldesley.

    Clive, give your retirement speech when you retire and just say thanks for sending me to games I had no real right to be at. Daft twat.
    Kept nodding throughout that.

    In addition, I think that Sky introduced and developed that selling of football during commentary. Along came the regular hyperbole that never happened before. People believed they were getting something far better than they were used to.

    Tyler is dreadful for this "AND IT'S LIVE", though he has a great way of putting images into words. He needs to retire in the next year or so though. Parry has been demoted to Championship and he needs shifting as well. Nobody else at Sky deserves to be a regular in the hot seat, so it'll be interesting to see what happens there.

    Hope Sky don't get Mowbray. I don't rate him. Steve Wilson is a very good commentator, I also like Simon Brotherton, but there aren't many coming through that deserve top billing at Sky. Peter Drury would be my shout.

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