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  1. #1

    Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Is it as ferociously manic as it was?

    Don’t get me wrong of course I want us to get to PL above them but over the past few years have attitudes towards each other slightly mellowed?

    Was the fact a lot of fans were mingling together in France in 2016 peacefully and friendly (most of i time) contribute towards this?

    In 2010-2011 I couldn’t mention their name without swearing, last night I congratulated few of my Swansea mates for their achievement.

    Or have I gone soft? 😂😂

  2. #2

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Bubble trips may have diluted it a little recently but it’s still very much there. Can you imagine the carnage at Wembley for a play off final with both sets of supporters mingling before and after! I think that’s one game the football authorities and police would definitely be happy about it being behind closed doors. It would be either the greatest or worst day for both sets of supporters, that’s for sure

  3. #3

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone View Post
    Bubble trips may have diluted it a little recently but it’s still very much there. Can you imagine the carnage at Wembley for a play off final with both sets of supporters mingling before and after! I think that’s one game the football authorities and police would definitely be happy about it being behind closed doors. It would be either the greatest or worst day for both sets of supporters, that’s for sure
    It would be a nightmare, as would the m4. I’m not sure it’s even police-able.

  4. #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    It would be a nightmare, as would the m4. I’m not sure it’s even police-able.
    I haven't read through the whole thread but this would be my main concern. Due to the pandemic, thankfully, it will be a "closed door" play-off final. It would be utter carnage otherwise, which would set back the image of CCFC (and maybe Wales as a whole) for years to come. My nightmare scenario nearly coming true. I say nearly as there is the small matter of the semi's to come!

  5. #5

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    We are starting to look really good.

    Hulls team were ruined in January.

    I remember their 4 all draw with Swansea. Both were garbage that day and i believe we won that weekend and one poster im sure was arguing that wed played the worst side in the league and Hull were far better and wouldn't have it that they were in freefall and in fact utter sh!t.

  6. #6

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Always been an odd rivalry for me in some ways, often feels a bit forced. Other than when I briefly worked there I don't know any swans fans personally. The ones I met whilst working there, most I'd say had some sort of deep routed dislike for not just the club but cardiff as a city also. Couple of others just offered the usual banter which is fine.

    I dislike them as I feel I should and whilst I'll never be happy for them to do any better than us I also don't have any sort of contact with their fans outside of what I might read on a forum.

    I think we drew the short straw on proper rivals, 40+ miles is a fair distance in this country. We also lack much of a truly sporting rivalry with them, particularly in my time watching we haven't been in the same division an awful lot.

  7. #7

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Always been an odd rivalry for me in some ways, often feels a bit forced. Other than when I briefly worked there I don't know any swans fans personally. The ones I met whilst working there, most I'd say had some sort of deep routed dislike for not just the club but cardiff as a city also. Couple of others just offered the usual banter which is fine.

    I dislike them as I feel I should and whilst I'll never be happy for them to do any better than us I also don't have any sort of contact with their fans outside of what I might read on a forum.

    I think we drew the short straw on proper rivals, 40+ miles is a fair distance in this country. We also lack much of a truly sporting rivalry with them, particularly in my time watching we haven't been in the same division an awful lot.
    It’s strange bigging up our ‘local’ rivalry with Swansea when the other two play off semi finalists are a mere five miles apart.

  8. #8

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    It is a strange rivalry given the distance between the two cities means that it really shouldn’t be classed as a derby.

    Most hatred from derbies develops with sets of rival fans living in the same street, working in the same company, or being in the same school.

    Having spent most of my life in Cardiff, I’ve genuinely only ever met 2 or 3 Swansea fans. If we lose to them, no one ever gives me stick or abuse. I’ve only ever done one away game there, at the vetch about 25 years ago.

    Yet for some strange reason I hate them with a passion. I was gutted last night and felt worse than than I did when city missed out on the play offs in the past.

  9. #9

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    It's relative though. Cardiff and Swansea are one club cities, so they have to have a rival somewhere!

  10. #10

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    I don't see the rivalry as being as intense these days from either party.
    Strange as we are probably as evenly matched as we've been for years

  11. #11

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Sorry, but Bristol City have always been our main rivals.

    Abertawe Town, were never mentioned till “tippy tappy”

  12. #12

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    Sorry, but Bristol City have always been our main rivals.

    Abertawe Town, were never mentioned till “tippy tappy”
    That's not true, is it? The rivalry didn't start a decade ago.

  13. #13

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Swansea have been our main rivals since the early 80s for the huge majority of our fans.

  14. #14

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Swansea have been our main rivals since the early 80s for the huge majority of the hooligan element .
    FYP

  15. #15

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Living in Bridgend, helps, as we have lots of swansea fans here, grew up with them in my street, in my school, and in my work. Cardiff is still majority here which is nice as we can bully them effectively.

    ------

    However yes it has gone soft, I think #togetherstronger with Wales did make a huge difference, as a teenager I always found trouble in Wales games, the train back to Bidgend was always a nightmare. Now I literally go to wales games with some Swansea fans, so it has really changed for me.

    Some of that is maturity too, But one thing that is for sure, they hate us way more than we care about them.

  16. #16

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    Living in Bridgend, helps, as we have lots of swansea fans here, grew up with them in my street, in my school, and in my work. Cardiff is still majority here which is nice as we can bully them effectively.

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    However yes it has gone soft, I think #togetherstronger with Wales did make a huge difference, as a teenager I always found trouble in Wales games, the train back to Bidgend was always a nightmare. Now I literally go to wales games with some Swansea fans, so it has really changed for me.

    Some of that is maturity too, But one thing that is for sure, they hate us way more than we care about them.
    I'm originally from the Bridgend area. Knew plenty of Jacks as well as City fans and always wanted to do better than them.

    I'm now living near Aberdare and am surprised at the number of Jacks up here as well giving it large.

  17. #17

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    But one thing that is for sure, they hate us way more than we care about them.
    I think every football club in the world thinks this about their rivals

  18. #18

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Swansea have been our main rivals since the early 80s for the huge majority of our fans.
    True. Ever since they began their upstart run. *****.

  19. #19

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    I remember some rather tasty encounters right from my first visit down there in 1970. Our meetings were infrequent then, and always in the Welsh Cup as they were then in their rightful place in the bottom two divisions.

  20. #20

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Being older than most on here, I can go back to the sixties when we played them regularly in one competition or another and always thought of them as our main rivals. Can't remember thinking that about the Wurzels.
    I also went to the Vetch almost every year we were playing them in that era, had a drink in pubs, even stood on the North Bank before segregation and never had a problem. However, I went to the Welsh Cup Final v Wrexham at the Vetch a few years later and the locals were waiting to pick off stragglers coming out of the ground. Fortunately, there were a lot of City there that night.

  21. #21

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyncoed Slumdog View Post
    Being older than most on here, I can go back to the sixties when we played them regularly in one competition or another and always thought of them as our main rivals. Can't remember thinking that about the Wurzels.
    I also went to the Vetch almost every year we were playing them in that era, had a drink in pubs, even stood on the North Bank before segregation and never had a problem. However, I went to the Welsh Cup Final v Wrexham at the Vetch a few years later and the locals were waiting to pick off stragglers coming out of the ground. Fortunately, there were a lot of City there that night.
    I’m 69, been going down since 1959, Splott Parker is about 66, he’s been going since about 1964 (I think), I’ll speak for him, when I say “it was never Abertawe Town we cared/worried about” .
    It was always Bristol city we detested, especially after what happened over there after a certain event in 1966 (no, it’s not the World Cup)
    Can’t be sure, but I can’t see how you were a travelling away fan in the 60’s, not to know that

  22. #22

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    I’m 69, been going down since 1959, Splott Parker is about 66, he’s been going since about 1964 (I think), I’ll speak for him, when I say “it was never Abertawe Town we cared/worried about” .
    It was always Bristol city we detested, especially after what happened over there after a certain event in 1966 (no, it’s not the World Cup)
    Can’t be sure, but I can’t see how you were a travelling away fan in the 60’s, not to know that
    I’m hurt I’m 65 and my first game was in 1962. The mocking by their fans re. The disaster was cruel and unnecessary, the evil bastards.

  23. #23

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Bloody hell !!!!
    All these people mentioning Bristol, will give someone a heart attack

  24. #24

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    Living in Bridgend, helps, as we have lots of swansea fans here, grew up with them in my street, in my school, and in my work. Cardiff is still majority here which is nice as we can bully them effectively.

    ------

    However yes it has gone soft, I think #togetherstronger with Wales did make a huge difference, as a teenager I always found trouble in Wales games, the train back to Bidgend was always a nightmare. Now I literally go to wales games with some Swansea fans, so it has really changed for me.

    Some of that is maturity too, But one thing that is for sure, they hate us way more than we care about them.
    I cant stand swansea city

    My experience of going to school in bridgend as a youngster , going out regularly at night in the town and going shopping in town etc is that it's almost exclusively a cardiff supporting town

  25. #25

    Re: Cardiff Swansea rivalry

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I cant stand swansea city

    My experience of going to school in bridgend as a youngster , going out regularly at night in the town and going shopping in town etc is that it's almost exclusively a cardiff supporting town
    Agreed before they had success in the Prem it has changed lots recently,
    I remember when a Swansea fan would not dare to wear colours in Bridgend. I was walking through town at night when I was about 13 (2005) and a guy in his 20's had been beaten and left confused in in an alley, and the group of kids I was with laughed and said what do you expect wearing that. That was the first time I had even seen Swansea colours being worn in town.

    Today, we literally have Swansea academy sessions in some of the schools around here 30/40 kids running about in full kit. (Not that is a problem with that)

    Just there has been a more accepting change, but I would say bridgend is 70% Cardiff if I had to guess still.

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