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    Re: CARDIFF CITY v FULHAM. Matchday thread

    Basically a repeat of the last league game against them. Totally outclassed. Shame about the 2 chances in the first half though. At least no embarrassing defeat against the Jacks in the final now!

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    Re: CARDIFF CITY v FULHAM. Matchday thread

    So frustrating how much respect we seemed to give them.

    That back line is made up of ex Bolton, Sheffield Weds, Middlesbrough and Bristol City. We stood off them and half assed closed them down like they were Real Madrid.

    Don't want to dig out one player either as they were all bad but if Pack plays another game for City it is one game too many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    So frustrating how much respect we seemed to give them.

    That back line is made up of ex Bolton, Sheffield Weds, Middlesbrough and Bristol City. We stood off them and half assed closed them down like they were Real Madrid.

    Don't want to dig out one player either as they were all bad but if Pack plays another game for City it is one game too many.
    Home game and we had 3 efforts on goal.
    Nowhere near good enough. As skint as Swansea are, they have Brewster, Ayew and others who all threaten the goal.
    We try hard but have very little threat and the opposition works that out fairly early.
    My heart says no promotion this year is a financial loss but my head says we may have embarrassed ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DubaiDai View Post
    Home game and we had 3 efforts on goal.
    Nowhere near good enough. As skint as Swansea are, they have Brewster, Ayew and others who all threaten the goal.
    We try hard but have very little threat and the opposition works that out fairly early.
    My heart says no promotion this year is a financial loss but my head says we may have embarrassed ourselves.
    By the way that is not a huge criticism. What I am saying is continue to build a better championship team and change the style to something akin to modern day football, and before anyone comes back, it does not have to be “tippy tappy” as some refer to it.
    I mean the style of football played by just about every successful side these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by DubaiDai View Post
    By the way that is not a huge criticism. What I am saying is continue to build a better championship team and change the style to something akin to modern day football, and before anyone comes back, it does not have to be “tippy tappy” as some refer to it.
    I mean the style of football played by just about every successful side these days
    You need to spend money - and wisely. Everyone was amazed when Bournemouth went up - the same with Brentford's rise. Two 'little' clubs with gates of 10k, but they actually spent big money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    You need to spend money - and wisely. Everyone was amazed when Bournemouth went up - the same with Brentford's rise. Two 'little' clubs with gates of 10k, but they actually spent big money.
    Agreed but then I would have to ask “is Harris right to take us into the future” and perhaps change things.
    Don’t get me wrong, I have had to eat my words as I was very critical of the appointment and thought it lacked ambition by the club, however, he has done very well to get us into the top 6

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    Re: CARDIFF CITY v FULHAM. Matchday thread

    Probably as well to get the crushing disappointment over early.

    Awful second half. Lost to the much better team tonight.

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    Wonder when that smug Bristol City fan will turn up? Haven't had a peep from him for a while!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Just me that thought the referee was a one-eyed **** then
    Can’t say that I noticed.

    (I was more overwhelmed at how poor we were in the second half - nothing to do with the ref)

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    Re: CARDIFF CITY v FULHAM. Matchday thread

    Tomlin should have gone at half time, he was a passenger in the 2nd have & we played 10 v 11. It should have been all over in the first 15 minutes, we had 3 good chances. From the first break onwards we looked like it was a game too far.

    I'd change half the team for the 2nd leg. Give some different faces and fresh legs a go at it. We're 2 down and on our way out so give them something different to think about.

    Flint up front :)

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    Re: CARDIFF CITY v FULHAM. Matchday thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Their players are clearly better than ours. They won all the individual battles this evening.
    The fact both goals were individual brilliance rather than intricate passing gosls undermines his argument somewhat

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    The fact both goals were individual brilliance rather than intricate passing gosls undermines his argument somewhat
    Their first came from a winger beating his man, then their high press won the ball back after we cleared it. None of those two things happened for us tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue View Post
    Their first came from a winger beating his man, then their high press won the ball back after we cleared it. None of those two things happened for us tonight
    Onomah slalomed past three players and stuck it past the keeper. That's individual brilliance, not a tactical masterplan

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Onomah slalomed past three players and stuck it past the keeper. That's individual brilliance, not a tactical masterplan
    right, but he didn't just magically get the ball at his feet did he? Look at the difference between us and fulham when the ball is lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Swansea have got a cobbled together side built around one quality player and scraped into the playoffs by a miracle.
    And still looked miles ahead of us against Brentford at home in comparison with that shitshow tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Fulham have been spending good money on quality footballers for a decade. Brentford have been bringing in quick, skillful players slowly over 3/4 yrs. Swansea have had excellent scouting links and a good reputation for football which enables them to get good Prem. prospects on loan. Compare that to us. The players have given their all, but we are a very long way away from those 3..
    I’m sorry but making excuses for Fulham,
    BRENTFORD and the JB’s being better placed for success than us, a Premier League side last year, is laughable!

    How can Brentford bringing in skilful players over the last few years or Swansea having a superior scouting network, be reasons for them being better than us?

    I’m not having a go at you Q Monky but I just don’t think that those teams have such significantly superior players than ours. I just don’t. I think that our players are at least as good as theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    I’m sorry but making excuses for Fulham,
    BRENTFORD and the JB’s being better placed for success than us, a Premier League side last year, is laughable!

    How can Brentford bringing in skilful players over the last few years or Swansea having a superior scouting network, be reasons for them being better than us?

    I’m not having a go at you Q Monky but I just don’t think that those teams have such significantly superior players than ours. I just don’t. I think that our players are at least as good as theirs.
    I'm not sure but haven't Fulham kept the same squad as last year's ? In midfield we had Arter, Reid, Gunnarson, Camarasa, Damour, Ralls. We've now got Ralls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I'm not sure but haven't Fulham kept the same squad as last year's ? In midfield we had Arter, Reid, Gunnarson, Camarasa, Damour, Ralls. We've now got Ralls.
    Other than loans expiring the only big player that went is Sessegnon, they've also added to their squad with Knockaert, Reed, Arter, Cavaleiro, Onomah, Hector and Decordove-Reid. Compare that to what we did in the summer.

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    Re: CARDIFF CITY v FULHAM. Matchday thread

    Quote Originally Posted by DubaiDai View Post
    Home game and we had 3 efforts on goal.
    Nowhere near good enough. As skint as Swansea are, they have Brewster, Ayew and others who all threaten the goal.
    We try hard but have very little threat and the opposition works that out fairly early.
    My heart says no promotion this year is a financial loss but my head says we may have embarrassed ourselves.
    I wanted sixth but if we missed out I wouldn't have been too distraught as I could see something like this happening in the play offs coming a mile off.

    It is just the manner of the defeat. Even at 1-0 it seemed like we were still settling for it.
    Yes Fulham were good but a lack of any enthusiastic pressing makes these sort of teams look that much better.
    Yes, we might have conceded another and it would have been game over but we could well have nicked one back.
    As it is we conceded anyway with our lacklustre performance and the tie is dead in the water anyway.

    I can take losing but not giving it a good go is unforgivable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    And still looked miles ahead of us against Brentford at home in comparison with that shitshow tonight.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    I’m sorry but making excuses for Fulham,
    BRENTFORD and the JB’s being better placed for success than us, a Premier League side last year, is laughable!

    How can Brentford bringing in skilful players over the last few years or Swansea having a superior scouting network, be reasons for them being better than us?

    I’m not having a go at you Q Monky but I just don’t think that those teams have such significantly superior players than ours. I just don’t. I think that our players are at least as good as theirs.
    Swansea havent they finished 3 points below us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Swansea havent they finished 3 points below us.
    And who is going to be in the Final?!!

  23. #23

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 2 FULHAM. Matchday thread

    Fulham deserved it.

  24. #24

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    We needed to score early which we should have.
    After that I thought we were too cautious and played into Fulham"s hands. Their defence is nothing special and will be found out in the Prem. Their best players are in midfield and up top.
    Never mind. Harris has the basis of a decent squad for next season.

  25. #25

    Re: FT: CARDIFF CITY 0 - 2 FULHAM. Matchday thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff View Post
    It has EVERYTHING to do with tactics.

    How many long balls did you see Fulham play? How much possession football did you see us play by passing and moving?

    I don’t think that their players are necessarily better than ours, but they have been coached on the basics of football: pass, move, pass,
    move, keep the ball, make the other team work to gain possession, not play endless long balls where the chances of maintaining possession are dramatically less.

    Who plays like that these days apart from us?

    It is EVERYTHING to do with tactics.

    If Fulham, Swansea and Brentford can do it, then why can’t our players? Because we have a manager that want to play another way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    Wasn't anyone's greatest night, Harris included, but think that's a bit harsh on him. We are trying to play more football and have but we still don't look as confident as is required and unless we are on it, like tonight it often just looks slow and predictable.

    Against Fulham we probably need to go full on direct with the squad we have.
    Sorry Bobby but I agree with Delboy's mate. Harris has tried to play a bit, especially since lockdown.
    I would also add that even though the two goals came from individual brilliance, they were better than us in nearly every position.

    It could have been a different story had we gone ahead but even if we had, I still think that Fulham would have dominated us.

    There may be a bit of a mental block with Harris not having won a game in seven (was it?) but sometimes the players do things they aren't coached to do just because of the quality of opposition.

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