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    Killing Evil Weeds

    a few weeks ago I got sick of the wild west look of the pavements where I live

    So I bought some round up , let em have it and they are dust

    Total wipeout

    They won't be showing their faces round here for a while I can tell you

    Run away

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    Re: Killing Evil Weeds

    WasDidn't you try the vinegar option as per this thread?
    https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...hlight=vinegar

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    I used Rounup a lot until I discovered the main ingredient is Glysophate which is carcinogenic. In all truth the stuff isn't that great as the weeds always come back.

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    Re: Killing Evil Weeds

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    I used Rounup a lot until I discovered the main ingredient is Glysophate which is carcinogenic.
    It isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    It isn't.
    $10 Biilion set aside for non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma law suits says differently

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    Re: Killing Evil Weeds

    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    $10 Biilion set aside for non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma law suits says differently
    Doesn't alter the fact that many studies have failed to find a link between glysophate and cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    It isn't.
    You are wrong I'm afraid.
    https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/toxic...-cancer-study/

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    Re: Killing Evil Weeds

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    So, that article contains the following studies.

    1) That glysophate is a cancer "promoter". In other words, the study found glysophate may cause tumours to grow faster. It didn't find that it caused tumours.
    2) An unpublished 1983 study. Unpublished.
    3) Screening of Pesticides with the Potential of Inducing DSB and Successive Recombinational Repair - The study didn't conclude that cancer was carcinogenic.

    https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/10/09...e-cancer-13490

    The European Food Safety Authority looked at 21 human studies and found no evidence for an association between cancer and glyphosate use. The IARC looked at 19 human trials and found no statistically significant evidence for an association with cancer. It did find three small studies that suggested an association with non-Hodgkin lymphoma (not statistically significant).

    As already mentioned, the large Agricultural Health Study found no association between cancer and glyphosate in humans. And the 2016 review by Australia’s regulator concluded glyphosate was safe if used as directed.

    It’s possible the animus towards Monsanto and genetically modified organisms may have influenced the recent juries’ decision far more than any science. However, these materials had no impact on the scientific findings.
    https://reason.com/2019/02/21/roundup-ready-cancer/

    Case-control studies are notoriously susceptible to the effects of bias, which may be introduced as a result of a poor study design or during the collection of exposure and outcome data.
    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2...a-second-look/

    Over a dozen international and national health agencies have reviewed the safety of glyphosate, some repeatedly, and have found it unlikely to cause cancer and safe when used according to its label.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    So, that article contains the following studies.

    1) That glysophate is a cancer "promoter". In other words, the study found glysophate may cause tumours to grow faster. It didn't find that it caused tumours.
    2) An unpublished 1983 study. Unpublished.
    3) Screening of Pesticides with the Potential of Inducing DSB and Successive Recombinational Repair - The study didn't conclude that cancer was carcinogenic.

    https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/10/09...e-cancer-13490



    https://reason.com/2019/02/21/roundup-ready-cancer/



    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2...a-second-look/
    The question is do I believe some person on a message board or do I believe the very many articles and legal actions being taken against the Roundup manufacturers as a result of the cancers allegedly caused by some individuals who have used the chemical?

    Whatever you might say or think I believe I was right to draw attention to the potential dangers of Roundup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    So, that article contains the following studies.

    1) That glysophate is a cancer "promoter". In other words, the study found glysophate may cause tumours to grow faster. It didn't find that it caused tumours.
    2) An unpublished 1983 study. Unpublished.
    3) Screening of Pesticides with the Potential of Inducing DSB and Successive Recombinational Repair - The study didn't conclude that cancer was carcinogenic.

    https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/10/09...e-cancer-13490



    https://reason.com/2019/02/21/roundup-ready-cancer/



    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2...a-second-look/
    If it can make cancer's grow ore quicky, then perhaps it can also cause undiagnosed cancers to upstage from something eminently treatable to something that isn't.

    There have been court cases against things that do not cause cancer but do up stage it, with potentially big payouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobh View Post
    WasDidn't you try the vinegar option as per this thread?
    https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...hlight=vinegar
    I bought a bottle of sarsons and put it on the dandelions in the back yard, they shrivelled a bit

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    Re: Killing Evil Weeds

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I bought a bottle of sarsons and put it on the dandelions in the back yard, they shrivelled a bit
    That happens to my chips when I put Sarsons on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    I used Rounup a lot until I discovered the main ingredient is Glysophate which is carcinogenic. In all truth the stuff isn't that great as the weeds always come back.
    its brilliant if you apply it then leave it for two weeks allowing substance to get into roots , the weeds won't come back from that

    But other weeds will and its just a case of applying it before the end of the growing season

    You can get non glysophate round up , its not as effective though

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    its brilliant if you apply it then leave it for two weeks allowing substance to get into roots , the weeds won't come back from that

    But other weeds will and its just a case of applying it before the end of the growing season

    You can get non glysophate round up , its not as effective though
    Exactly. Glyphosphate is a systemic herbicide meaning it takes time to get into the roots, typically 2-3 weeks, rather than a residual herbicide that you can spray on the ground and it will stop anything coming up in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cityhammer View Post
    Exactly. Glyphosphate is a systemic herbicide meaning it takes time to get into the roots, typically 2-3 weeks, rather than a residual herbicide that you can spray on the ground and it will stop anything coming up in future.
    The instructions say at least 7 days and not as long as 2-3 weeks. It does kill some weeds but not all. I have been using this stuff for years and only stopped recently. Many weeds come back in my experience.

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    Sadly it was banned but Sodium Chlorate was the dogs for killing weeds. Trouble is all those oxygen atoms around the chlorine are a bit naughty and when excited can go BOOM!

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    I am going to try a mix of vinegar and salt on one patch and roundup on another

    May the best man win , sorry best weed

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I am going to try a mix of vinegar and salt on one patch and roundup on another

    May the best man win , sorry best weed
    Keep that glyphosate off your skin and also don't inhale any spray. Lots of agrochemicals are very dodgy and people left poorly informed. The very worst are insecticides which by their very nature feck up the central nervous system of insects. Chemically they are very similar to chemical warfare agents. Be safe Buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    I am going to try a mix of vinegar and salt on one patch and roundup on another

    May the best man win , sorry best weed
    I would expect the roundup to work better, but the salt n vinegar will work, and are much less toxic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I would expect the roundup to work better, but the salt n vinegar will work, and are much less toxic
    The main disadvantage to the salt and vinegar weed treatment is that it does tend to encourage people to lick the pavement on their way home on a Saturday night, which can have serious health implications obviously. 🤢🤮

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    white vinegar stay safe , don't piss on them though as it is a feed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire View Post
    Keep that glyphosate off your skin and also don't inhale any spray. Lots of agrochemicals are very dodgy and people left poorly informed. The very worst are insecticides which by their very nature feck up the central nervous system of insects. Chemically they are very similar to chemical warfare agents. Be safe Buddy!
    thanks mate I will

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I would expect the roundup to work better, but the salt n vinegar will work, and are much less toxic
    I have given the scum a bloody good leathering with roundup

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    So, that article contains the following studies.

    1) That glysophate is a cancer "promoter". In other words, the study found glysophate may cause tumours to grow faster. It didn't find that it caused tumours.
    2) An unpublished 1983 study. Unpublished.
    3) Screening of Pesticides with the Potential of Inducing DSB and Successive Recombinational Repair - The study didn't conclude that cancer was carcinogenic.

    https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/10/09...e-cancer-13490



    https://reason.com/2019/02/21/roundup-ready-cancer/



    https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2...a-second-look/
    My mate who has an allotment uses it all the time according to instruction , not in wind , with gloves and if any gets on his skin he has a wash . He has been using it for years . But , he's not a scientist .

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    Re: Killing Evil Weeds

    I hadn't heard of the salt and vinegar routine. What proportions are used (salt to vinegar) to make an effective weedkiller? I intend to try it on my block paved drive the joints of which are a magnet for weeds

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