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Thread: Churchill

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    Churchill

    Just read up on this

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/therepor...ved_india.html

    Bit of an arsehole wasn’t he

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    Re: Churchill

    The winners write the history, the more I think about it the history that I was taught in school was no more than an English propaganda scheme!

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    Re: Churchill

    He was a twat
    He ordered the bombing of French ship is ww2,nearly 1300 died

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    He was a twat
    He ordered the bombing of French ship is ww2,nearly 1300 died
    To stop them becoming part of the German navy after the French refused to hand them over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyncoed Slumdog View Post
    To stop them becoming part of the German navy after the French refused to hand them over.
    Phew well done Winnie, it was only 1300 lives!!

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    Re: Churchill

    Useless Boris offered 40k+ lives to covid 19

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Phew well done Winnie, it was only 1300 lives!!
    They would have been seized by the Germans or Italians. 1300 lives yes but during a world war.

    Churchill wasn't all good, no man really is but he made tough decisions. He was the right man for the occasion, in peace time he wouldn't have been and his swift defeat in the polls following the war shows that.

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    Re: Churchill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyncoed Slumdog View Post
    To stop them becoming part of the German navy after the French refused to hand them over.
    Could have waited until they were in German hand then bomb them

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    He was a twat
    He ordered the bombing of French ship is ww2,nearly 1300 died
    From what I recall there was a French admiral in charge who refused to give up the fleet despite repeated warning that it would be sunk. I suppose you think we should have said, "go on then, give the whole French fleet to the Nazis so they can run riot in the channel".

    Perhaps reading a book or two might improve your limited knowledge of history..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeepster View Post
    Could have waited until they were in German hand then bomb them
    Could we bomb south of France at the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK View Post
    Useless Boris offered 40k+ lives to covid 19
    Boris is a dangerous moron and I do hold out hope that he will be held criminally liable for his negligence, but you are assuming that the base case is 0 deaths. You have to accept that even if he'd aced it, thousands of people would have died because of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    They would have been seized by the Germans or Italians. 1300 lives yes but during a world war.

    Churchill wasn't all good, no man really is but he made tough decisions. He was the right man for the occasion, in peace time he wouldn't have been and his swift defeat in the polls following the war shows that.
    I'd agree with this. It would of course have been better if it hadn't happened, but the allies were not winning the war at that point and the fleet could have done more damage than 1300 lives, it could have kept the Nazis in North Africa and repelled the Italian invasion. No one knows and that's with the benefit of hindsight.

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    Re: Churchill

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    From what I recall there was a French admiral in charge who refused to give up the fleet despite repeated warning that it would be sunk. I suppose you think we should have said, "go on then, give the whole French fleet to the Nazis so they can run riot in the channel".

    Perhaps reading a book or two might improve your limited knowledge of history..
    Thanks for your input,go read one or two yourself might learn not to go to an idiotic profile of a person you do not know

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    Re: Churchill

    In war, you have to make some awful, awful decisions. Churchill was in charge at the time, and the buck stopped with him. Looking back, maybe things could have been done differently, but no country at war would willingly hand over a fleet of heavy warships to it's enemies.
    The fact that France was willing to let Germany seize them says a lot more about France, and their plans at the time. Britain really was on it's own at that time, and Churchill was the man we needed to lead us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tforturton View Post
    In war, you have to make some awful, awful decisions. Churchill was in charge at the time, and the buck stopped with him. Looking back, maybe things could have been done differently, but no country at war would willingly hand over a fleet of heavy warships to it's enemies.
    The fact that France was willing to let Germany seize them says a lot more about France, and their plans at the time. Britain really was on it's own at that time, and Churchill was the man we needed to lead us.
    Churchill took us to war. The nazis never had any intention of invading Britain at the start.

    Definitely hard decisions but some that showed some lives were more dispensable than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Churchill took us to war. The nazis never had any intention of invading Britain at the start.

    Definitely hard decisions but some that showed some lives were more dispensable than others.
    You think Churchill was the PM when we went to war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Churchill took us to war. The nazis never had any intention of invading Britain at the start.
    Good grief....

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    Re: Churchill

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Churchill took us to war. The nazis never had any intention of invading Britain at the start.

    Definitely hard decisions but some that showed some lives were more dispensable than others.
    Also, Hitler only had one ball. I don’t think he would have invaded Poland if he had had two. Just saying.

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    Re: Churchill

    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    They would have been seized by the Germans or Italians. 1300 lives yes but during a world war.

    Churchill wasn't all good, no man really is but he made tough decisions. He was the right man for the occasion, in peace time he wouldn't have been and his swift defeat in the polls following the war shows that.

    Do agree a very flawed man , if nasty decisions weren't made the even worse evils of Nazism would have prevailed.

    I'm glad we had him and most of the world looked up to him including the Yanks with all their show and bluster, we had he real leader thank god.

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    Re: Churchill

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Churchill took us to war. The nazis never had any intention of invading Britain at the start.

    Definitely hard decisions but some that showed some lives were more dispensable than others.
    you may want to research that fact , those hard times saw death was all around only brave people and tpugh churchillian decisions fixed it.

    RIP all those who innocents who lost their lives in the name of a master race and empire ,not forgetting the Holocaust which was a bloody good reason anyway to join an alliance to stop.

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    Re: Churchill

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Good grief....
    Indeed

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    Re: Churchill

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Churchill took us to war. The nazis never had any intention of invading Britain at the start.

    Definitely hard decisions but some that showed some lives were more dispensable than others.
    You really aren't in touch with reality.

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    Re: Churchill

    Didn’t WC send the troops into the valleys to deal with a miners strike in the early part of the 20th century? where he’s still hated to this day. He didn’t become PM until May 1940 when the country had been at war for about 9 months, so he certainly didn’t lead the UK into war.

  24. #24

    Re: Churchill

    Without Churchill, Britain would have lost the war. His part in The Tonypandy Riots has mostly been misinformed. It was the Police that caused most friction.
    A very good synopsis is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonypandy_riots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maurice Swan View Post
    Without Churchill, Britain would have lost the war. His part in The Tonypandy Riots has mostly been misinformed. It was the Police that caused most friction.
    A very good synopsis is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonypandy_riots
    it's impossible not say we would have lost the war without Churchill we had many other military leaders. considering new played a pretty minor role in the second world war it's a bit of a stretch.

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