I wonder when live gigs will restart ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I went to the cinema today. Including me and my son there was 9 people watching the movie.

There was an audience at the snooker over the weekend. There have been crowds allowed at football games in France.

People need to get on with things and use some common sense.

Seated venues can pre book allocated tickets, small enclosed standing only places will be tougher to manage.

I think the entertainment and hospitality sector is fecked for several years , people have got out of the habit and some people are afraid of their own shadow

[City123]

I think the entertainment and hospitality sector is fecked for several years , people have got out of the habit and some people are afraid of their own shadow

Those people already existed, if anything having to spend so long away from gigs/clubs etc may encourage people to go out more often

[goats]

I think the entertainment and hospitality sector is fecked for several years , people have got out of the habit and some people are afraid of their own shadow

Too right, only 10 cases in Wales yet hardly anyone goes out....

[CCFCC3PO]

Too right, only 10 cases in Wales yet hardly anyone goes out....

Really? Currently enjoying 2 weeks off work and Cardiff was quite busy yesterday. We had a nice walk down Dare Valley Country Park today and it was as busy as usual there too. Roads very busy as we headed to Abergavenny for an evening meal yesterday too.

[EastbourneBlue]

Too right, only 10 cases in Wales yet hardly anyone goes out....

4.6 cases per 100k in Wales.

If the stadium was at capacity there’d be 1.5 people there with corona.

C’mon, enough is enough.

I’m afraid if you’re vulnerable and more likely to die with the Covid then yes, you’re going to have to stay away from crowds until we have a vaccine.

But let the rest of us get on with it!

[Bruce Parry]

I’d be very surprised if things are back to normal in live music before 2022. Safe shows are gonna be impossible in most venues. Maybe the bigger bands will make it work but a lot of the 2000 cap and under bands are gonna struggle.

[City123]

I’d be very surprised if things are back to normal in live music before 2022. Safe shows are gonna be impossible in most venues. Maybe the bigger bands will make it work but a lot of the 2000 cap and under bands are gonna struggle.

The entire industry would be dead if that happened

[Bruce Parry]

The entire industry would be dead if that happened

Yep and they know it. A lot people, companies and venues aren’t gonna come out of this.

Selling out 30% of a venue, you’re never gonna break even. Punters are either going to be too scared to go or refuse to pay double what they normally pay for a ticket.

[City123]

Yep and they know it. A lot people, companies and venues aren’t gonna come out of this.

Selling out 30% of a venue, you’re never gonna break even. Punters are either going to be too scared to go or refuse to pay double what they normally pay for a ticket.

I've noticed a few venues have used their space just as a pub whilst waiting to put gigs back on. Fuel on Womanby Street have done that and Clwb Ifor Bach are reopening soon, hopefully it'll keep these places going

[lardy]

I’d be very surprised if things are back to normal in live music before 2022. Safe shows are gonna be impossible in most venues. Maybe the bigger bands will make it work but a lot of the 2000 cap and under bands are gonna struggle.

Problem for the bigger bands is that many of the lighting, sound, equipment, etc people are self employed. They won't be able to wait, so there's going to be a big knock on there.

[CCFCC3PO]

4.6 cases per 100k in Wales.

If the stadium was at capacity there’d be 1.5 people there with corona.

C’mon, enough is enough.

I’m afraid if you’re vulnerable and more likely to die with the Covid then yes, you’re going to have to stay away from crowds until we have a vaccine.

But let the rest of us get on with it!

That isn't how it works.

[Michael Morris]

That isn't how it works.

so how does it work?

I like Eastbourne's point. There's a massive world of non covid out there. And many more people die each day from other ailments. We don't freak out and avoid those incidents.

Live your life. There's risk everywhere.

[Jordi Culé]

so how does it work?

I like Eastbourne's point. There's a massive world of non covid out there. And many more people die each day from other ailments. We don't freak out and avoid those incidents.

Live your life. There's risk everywhere.

Isn’t the point though, you live your life and then pass the risk to someone (unknowingly) who is vulnerable to the disease?

I might have got that wrong and will stand corrected?

[goats]

Isn’t the point though, you live your life and then pass the risk to someone (unknowingly) who is vulnerable to the disease?

I might have got that wrong and will stand corrected?

I guess if you are young and living how you like, you would have the sense to stay away from the vulnerable. Or maybe the vulnerable should continue to be very careful.....which no doubt they will

[Michael Morris]

Isn’t the point though, you live your life and then pass the risk to someone (unknowingly) who is vulnerable to the disease?

I might have got that wrong and will stand corrected?

but we pass shit on on a daily basis. deaths are happening day in day out via heart attacks, flu, cancer, car crashes and all in higher numbers than covid.

we don't wear masks to stop that shit. i went to see stereophonics in march. no spike. hundreds of thousands on the beaches and at rallies. no spikes. ve day, vj day, millions on tubes and out living life. no spikes.

incidents seem localised to very intimate gatherings.

seems there needs to be very close contact to spread. be sensible, don't breathe over someone or hug the shit out of them but just be normal.

we are being controlled to become scared of our own shadows.